6-8YOE at sub-scale SM LO going to MBA to change geos, but am i too old? HF Inv
I have 6-8YOE at sub-scale developed markets equity SM LO ($200-300MM book) in a non-US EU UK country (senior equity analyst & partner). However, I want to try to land a better, similar seat in the US or UK after a CBS / Wharton / Booth MBA (could be LO or L/S). But I'd be 32 when I graduate. Is that too old for post-MBA analyst recruiting, even with 6-8YOE at the buyside prior? Is that a good bet overall? Assume I'm a decent analyst and have a good track record
why would you be too old at 32? you'd be treated the same as all of the other post MBA IM recruits. If i had to guess, the average age of my M7 was 30-31 at time of graduation so you'd be only slightly older.
Got it. I thought most were 28-29
Also looking into this myself, many schools emphasize their holistic application process but the admitted class looks quite different, there is probably an age barrier at some programs. I don't think you're at that age though.
Not too old at all. I'd think with your background you'd be a shoo-in for CBS too.
Honest question: why do you think you'd be too old? What does being "too old" mean? Too old for what? I know you said for recruiting, but can you expand on that logic? I don't get it.
Firms look at candidates mostly on seniority, not age, and how it fits with what the firm (and/or hiring manager is looking for). Seniority goes against you because they'll view you as a more expensive hire. Doesn't really have to do with age.
Hiring a post MBA guy to be entry level associate/analyst job that works under a senior analyst/sector head or PM is different than hiring a guy in his late 30s with 10 years experience. One could reasonably assume that the first hire would cost low six figures in expense and would be willing to work with a senior analyst that has 5-8 years of experience whereas the second hire is going to be high six figures / low seven figures and would likely NOT want to work with someone with equal or less experience than him.
Just an example, but that's how I think about it, not by age...
That makes sense. Could be both: whether I'm either too senior or too old for the structured post MBA recruiting programs - I'd expect most post MBA targeters aim to hire people with low buyside experience and in their late20s-30? But as others commented, that's probably not an impediment.
"Late 20s-30"
You think a 28 year old is functionally different from a 32 year old to them? I'd understand if its a question of say, 28 versus 38. But yeah, you're seriously worrying about nothing.
Have the same question - would you say the job opportunities for the latter profile is much smaller at post MBA level because as you said, it's multiple times more expensive than junior without IM experience... in the meantime, junior analyst's job can be somewhat replaced by AI, but I still see more job post looking for junior, not sure why and when this is going to change
It's honestly case by case.
I think juniors will be needed in the foreseeable future, though not everyone needs one. I can manage a subbook myself, but if I continue to add names or add another sector I'll look for a junior. This is because I can't manage 80 names alone, though. Would it make sense to hire an experienced hire to cover an adjacent sector? Maybe. I'd be more likely to do that if my capital was increased to the point where I think everyone can make more money despite the more expensive hire.
Not sure about fundamental but age matters a lot in quant. It's better to ignore what firms say and look at who they are actually hiring. Many of the big quant places only hire fresh grads through their intern pipeline for front office roles, which naturally creates an age limit.
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