Just wondering if anyone could provide color to the differences between these three seemingly identical businesses at Citadel. Are there differences in risk limits? More sm-feel at ashler/surveyor vs ge? Website suggests they’re just rebrands of the same model.
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All very similar technically with similar central teams / resource allocation. Ashler tends to have larger teams and less teams per sector (i.e. TMT focused on all of TMT vs TMT that is software focused or has a PM that is really just a subvertical person). Investing style is similar across each tho GE does some options stuff. Culture is more team than business dependent.
Would focus on team / fit
Surveyor > ge > ashler
This is literally true wtf? How does this have MS
My understanding:
i think it really comes down to the pm.
Why does Citadel need to have three different business units doing the same thing? Is it purely for economics to incentivize the individual business heads?
Yeah you nailed it.
is there one that's generally considered better than the others?
Surveyor
I’d put aptigon/ravelin over surveyor/ge/ashler.
But seriously I’d pick Surveyor and GE over ashler. Citadel was quick to cut aptigon and ravelin so might do the same with ashler at some point if performance is weak.
Units are largely a reflection of the business head beyond that it’s really all the same rules and just a corporate access play.
How about Drew Gillanders' International Equities (London, Hong Kong, Singapore)? Both Ashler and International Equities now have 95+ investment professionals.
It’s meh. It’s still a citadel platform so it’s good, but it’s not as significant in London as GFI or commods
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