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mrb87

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Apples vs oranges...thoughts? trends?

How is this even a debate? Oranges are clearly superior. Better juice and it's really not even close. Plus, they clearly taste better. Apples are more like the fast food of fruits. They're very convenient and portable, but fall short on the important metrics. I can't eat a porterhouse steak while I'm driving, but I could with a Quarter Pounder from McDonald's. But, nobody would ever say the latter is better. That's insane. Oranges win.
 
DickFuld mrb87:

This topic is inane

Apples vs oranges...thoughts? trends?

How is this even a debate? Oranges are clearly superior. Better juice and it's really not even close. Plus, they clearly taste better. Apples are more like the fast food of fruits. They're very convenient and portable, but fall short on the important metrics. I can't eat a porterhouse steak while I'm driving, but I could with a Quarter Pounder from McDonald's. But, nobody would ever say the latter is better. That's insane. Oranges win.

False. Apples can be turned into hard cider. Apples >> Oranges without a doubt.
 

While the two are obviously quite different they can be very complementary strategies depending on how they are implemented. You will generally find a lot of funds combining the two via top down (macro view) and bottom up (value). As a few mentioned above macro, while it has a slick sense to it is difficult to nail as you are often expressing a subjective view in a binary way, although not always as in other cases you may just be trying to identify a structural shift (e.g. retail to online shopping). Value on the other hand, has an inherent (when done with any degree of competence) margin of safety - just because a stock doesn't double/triple it won't necessarily collapse. In any sense it is probability a good call to get relatively comfortable with both sides, and then specialize as inevitable you'll use and benefit from both in the long run.

Good book for macro: Hedge fund Market Wizards Good book for value: The intelligent investor or one up on wall street

 
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