New Grad Recruiting

Hey guys, I am interning at a top multi-strat this summer (think DE Shaw/Citadel/ Millennium etc.) Really looking forward to learning a lot and obviously will grind hard for the return offer.

I was wondering in case I don't get converted, how good/ bad of a signal would the internship have for new grad recruiting (HF/ prop shops) ?  On the one hand, a top shop like that on the resume should boost my profile but on the other no return offer might show that I am not good enough so my application is not worth pursuing.

As an analyst/trader/PM/quant if you see a resume like this what would you think? Also any ideas about what HR/BD will think about this (aware that they normally do CV screening for entry-level roles not traders/quants)

Just curious to hear people's thoughts on how these things are perceived in the industry !

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Based on the most helpful WSO content, interning at a top multi-strat like DE Shaw, Citadel, or Millennium is undoubtedly a strong signal on your resume, even if you don't secure a return offer. Here's how this situation is generally perceived in the industry:

  1. Positive Signal for Your Profile:

    • Having a top-tier multi-strat internship on your resume demonstrates that you were able to secure a highly competitive position, which is a testament to your skills and potential.
    • It shows that you have been exposed to a high-caliber environment, which is valuable for new grad recruiting at hedge funds or prop shops.
  2. No Return Offer – Industry Perception:

    • While not getting a return offer might raise questions, it is not necessarily a dealbreaker. Hedge funds and prop shops understand that these firms have extremely high standards, and not everyone gets converted.
    • The key is how you frame the experience. Focus on what you learned, the skills you developed, and the value you added during the internship.
  3. HR/BD Screening:

    • HR and business development teams typically look for strong signals like top-tier internships, so having this on your resume will likely help you pass the initial screening.
    • However, they may inquire about why you didn’t get a return offer. Be prepared to address this with a positive and professional explanation.
  4. What Analysts/Traders/PMs Think:

    • For decision-makers like analysts, traders, or PMs, the focus will be on your ability to generate ideas, your thought process, and your technical skills. If you can demonstrate these effectively in interviews, the lack of a return offer becomes less significant.
    • Having a well-prepared stock pitch or trading idea can help you stand out and show your value.
  5. Actionable Advice:

    • Prepare a strong narrative about your internship experience, emphasizing the skills and knowledge you gained.
    • Work on crafting compelling investment ideas or trading strategies to showcase during interviews.
    • Network actively and reach out to professionals in the industry, as hedge fund recruiting often relies on direct connections.

Ultimately, while not getting a return offer might create a slight hurdle, the prestige of the internship and how you present yourself can still make you a strong candidate for new grad roles.

Sources: Q&A: Non-Target School to Portfolio Manager at a Top Hedge Fund – 6 Years Out of Undergrad, Hedge Fund Careers: Getting a Hedge Fund Job Out of Undergrad and Beyond, Going from a non-target with low GPA to landing a hedge fund Internship, Hedge Fund Careers: Getting a Hedge Fund Job Out of Undergrad and Beyond, How I got my job in a Hedge Fund after graduation

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In a similar situation. Trying to just focus on getting the return and not anything else. No answer to this question will affect anything you do. Can't really recruit before hearing if you get a return or not anyways

 

yeh that’s the right move.

had some recruiters reach out to me about potential FT applications for the future and ig the only reason to engage with them would be if i don’t get the RO.

but if i don’t get return then my profile surely wouldnt be attractive for them

 

I think it wouldn't be as bad as you think. Recruiters and other pod shops understand that you could not get RO for any number of reasons mostly out of your control. the kid on my desk last summer that didn't get an RO ended up in a good role elsewhere. Someone else in this thread seems to have had a similar experience. Maybe it's not the end of the world 

 

Interned at a top pod and didn't get an RO, ended up recruiting FT and getting an offer at another top pod.

Very doable and doesn't massively harm chances.

 

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