Offer decision

I have potential multiple offers:

Ubs - FX sales milan

Citi - sales (Unknown desk) milan

Morgan Stanley - MBS trading support in Budapest

Small AM firm (well known in Italy, absolutely unknown abroad) - Bond Portfolio Management analyst in Milan

My dream is to become PM in a Macro Hedge Fund.

What should I choose?

 

Tricky, If I had to make the decision that priorities PM in the future: Citi first, UBS second, MS third. But there are other considerations do you speak Hungarian? Do you know the culture? Do you know anyone there? Why I ask, It be pretty stressful working in a country where you know no one, don't speak their language, whilst a war is raging next door. Assuming you are Italian here. As for the small AM, I would need more info to make an informed decision. There is also a people aspect to this that I don't consider, you should have a call with each of the hiring managers to find out if they are actually worth working for.

I suppose I'm more looking at the possibility staying in FO. I choose Citi and UBS over MS, mainly for the Front Office and hopefully it will set you up to stay within FO at least in your early career and attract the HF a bit more. Of course there is a prestige of MS to consider as a tier 1, but because of MO and it's support, it may be more difficult to have to worry about getting into FO and then the PM role. It's located in Budapest, I wouldn't say it's a con, but Eastern European prospects don't look great, it is a beautiful city, and it is more like a tech/ trade support hub, so progression from MO in an MO hub to FO is quite unlikely, I may be wrong and plus assuming you don't speak Hungarian. So for mainly the MO position I cross off MS first.

I would say UBS and Citi are pretty much on par. Not knowing the actual desk for Citi can be an issue. I personally, and this is my personal preference, is to go larger, mainly because of more opportunities for lateral hire, if you don't like you desk, work hard for a year form good relations and start moving, though easier said then done. Though in the end both UBS and Citi may have plenty of those in Europe. I put more weight on Milan, because I assume you are italian, and have friends and family there so you have people who can support your personal life. You could flip the coin for UBS and Citi, but because of my preference of going larger and larger balance sheet = more opps internally, which I recognize may not be true. So hence I choose Citi first.

 

Dude thank you very much for your answer.

To give additional infos:

yes i am Italian but not from Milan.

The AM firm has over 30bn AUM and it is one of the most known italian AM firm, but has no reputation at all abroad. it has 100 employees. It is called Anima SGR. Team would be Corporate bonds.

Morgan Stanley looks like MO from job description but HR says it is FO in support to New York office, so I would work NYC hours from Budapest. It is the Structured Margin Financing Desk.

I don't know if this changes your mind or not.

 
Most Helpful

Cumque in ipsum molestiae blanditiis. Consectetur in aut in vero nemo molestias cumque. Rerum deleniti nihil quod expedita expedita est ad. Alias sunt laudantium ut id adipisci. In doloremque sunt repellendus dolor ipsam rem rerum esse. Rerum voluptates dicta minus.

Career Advancement Opportunities

April 2024 Hedge Fund

  • Point72 98.9%
  • D.E. Shaw 97.9%
  • Citadel Investment Group 96.8%
  • Magnetar Capital 95.8%
  • AQR Capital Management 94.7%

Overall Employee Satisfaction

April 2024 Hedge Fund

  • Magnetar Capital 98.9%
  • D.E. Shaw 97.8%
  • Blackstone Group 96.8%
  • Two Sigma Investments 95.7%
  • Citadel Investment Group 94.6%

Professional Growth Opportunities

April 2024 Hedge Fund

  • AQR Capital Management 99.0%
  • Point72 97.9%
  • D.E. Shaw 96.9%
  • Magnetar Capital 95.8%
  • Citadel Investment Group 94.8%

Total Avg Compensation

April 2024 Hedge Fund

  • Portfolio Manager (9) $1,648
  • Vice President (23) $474
  • Director/MD (12) $423
  • NA (6) $322
  • 3rd+ Year Associate (24) $287
  • Manager (4) $282
  • Engineer/Quant (71) $274
  • 2nd Year Associate (30) $251
  • 1st Year Associate (73) $190
  • Analysts (225) $179
  • Intern/Summer Associate (22) $131
  • Junior Trader (5) $102
  • Intern/Summer Analyst (250) $85
notes
16 IB Interviews Notes

“... there’s no excuse to not take advantage of the resources out there available to you. Best value for your $ are the...”

Leaderboard

1
redever's picture
redever
99.2
2
BankonBanking's picture
BankonBanking
99.0
3
Betsy Massar's picture
Betsy Massar
99.0
4
Secyh62's picture
Secyh62
99.0
5
GameTheory's picture
GameTheory
98.9
6
CompBanker's picture
CompBanker
98.9
7
dosk17's picture
dosk17
98.9
8
kanon's picture
kanon
98.9
9
Linda Abraham's picture
Linda Abraham
98.8
10
numi's picture
numi
98.8
success
From 10 rejections to 1 dream investment banking internship

“... I believe it was the single biggest reason why I ended up with an offer...”