Systematic vs Semi-systematic
Just wanted people's thoughts on systematic vs semi systematic styles in macro (rates, fx, index, commodities)
Both seem highly quantitative in nature, but it seems that the real money makers seem to be the semi-systematic guys. Every time you see some big guarantee being paid to some macro/RV PM, it's someone that has a more Semi-systematic style.
Is it just me or do the Cliff Asness style systematic guys just not get paid that handsomely when compared to their semi-systematic peers? Is there a sense that a systematic PMs strategy and tech are owned by the fund so they command less payout (since anyone can run the strategy), whereas some of the alpha that the semi systematic guys have is their own self/intuition and so they can get paid out more?
Based on the most insightful WSO discussions, here's a breakdown of systematic vs. semi-systematic styles in macro:
Systematic Macro:
Semi-Systematic Macro:
Compensation Dynamics:
Market Perception:
In summary, the higher payouts for semi-systematic PMs reflect their perceived irreplaceability and the unique alpha they generate, whereas systematic PMs may face lower compensation due to the replicable nature of their strategies and the fund's ownership of the IP.
Sources: https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/hedge-fund/demystify-systematic-macro?customgpt=1, What I've Learned About Hedge Fund Structure and Compensation, Compensation Structure At Quant VS Fundamental Funds, Qualities of a Great Investor, Performance of the best PM’s at MM’s?
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