A hole associate
Not sure if this is standard since I started full time recently , but the associate I have is a complete asshole.
Thinks no end of himself while not being at a top bank/ top group by any means…
Gives no context and just assigns works and asks me to be proactive
Points out the smallest of things which I've no idea how to do and expects to just self explain and get it "right"
Humiliates me in front of everyone, immature- goes upwards (VP/MD- will cc them) for small errors…
Never appreciates for the 100 things I get right and one small one will create a scene
Repeatedly says ask questions if I don't understand but when I do , passive aggressively dismisses and get angry
Wtf should I do?
Is this normal and how it's supposed to be?
He need some milk
See you on Monday, I'll respond in person
What a tough anonymous poster
Forgiveable until he stars CC'ing people in. Then it's not him trying to teach you the hard way. It's him being an ass hole
Analyst 1 in IB-M&AForgiveable until he stars CC'ing people in. Then it's not him trying to teach you the hard way. It's him being an ass holeHow is any of it forgivable lol
Personally I would try to get him out for lunch and have a heart to heart with him. No homo.
Honestly this is how I would deal with it
1. Write a letter about all of the things he does and how much it bothers you. Throw it in the trash - this is just to get your frustration out, but you can also think through how you could raise this with him in a positive way (think of concrete examples and solutions - i.e. the shitshow last week on Project Banana's acc/dil was rough for both of us, next time can we sit down for 20 minutes and go through how the model works, or if I spin my wheels can I grab you for help?)
2. Ask if you could meet with him for 20-30 minutes and discuss how you can work better to make both of your lives easier. It's perfectly okay to say "I appreciate the ownership you give me, but sometimes I need more context and explanation given I'm a new hire. If something is new or confusing to me, am I okay to put 15 minutes on your calendar to go through the concept and make sure I understand it? Sometimes I feel like I am attempting tasks without much understanding, I'm trying to be proactive but I need a bit more direction on items that are new"
Associates are not going to praise you for the 100 things right and 1 thing wrong, I totally understand your frustration but not much you can do there.
The CCing isn't something I would raise directly to him, although trust me the VP/MD aren't sitting there thinking "wow Analyst 1 sucks!" they are likely looking a bit sideways at the associate for calling you out. Not something a good team player does. That I would leave alone, do your best work and ask for more help but don't get aggressive yourself
it hurts my ego lolI want to fight backI am as rude to him now as he is to me
He is really a dick for cc'ing whole team, it's his job to ensure product quality.
However a few scenarios are possible here:
- You are actually really bad and require more guidance than you should and the Asso is seriously pissed off and trying to make you understand you need to step up here
- You are good and he's trusting you will get it hence gets annoyed when you "disappoint" him with silly mistakes
- You are average and he's just a bad Asso. In that case I would ask questions live (depends on style, personally I want my analysts to ask questions live on teams rather than wait EBs if day with 20 questions and lose time, and I would answer if I can) and once you send, go to him in person and say hey I sent you the draft, hopefully incorporated all your comments but please let me know if you have any comments and will be sure to incorporate asap before we send to MDs - to try to bypass the cc all. also before you start working, ask for a page flip if you need to. I've never refused a page flip to an analyst
In any case, try to avoid mistakes and be nice to him so it doesn't get worse
Personally with bad analysts I would flag every mistake and it will be time consuming for both of us, while with good ones I spend much less time on managing them and would say good job once in a while.
Realize they're also likely busy on other things. Also independently of whether he's right or wrong he will be the one influencing your reviews (seniors will frequently ask "who is this analyst? What should I say for review") so need to have him/her on your side.
I agree sometimes mistakes happen and silly but isnt that the point?
This is the 2nd post I've seen in a couple days talking about an associate who "goes upwards" to more senior people about analyst mistakes.
It's surprising because it seems completely irrational even to the most selfish toxic person. What is gained for the associate in terms of standing? I think the VP/MD reads the email from the associate and says "if it's not your job to catch & reduce analyst errors, what is your job? What would you say . . . you do here" as the Bobs from Office Space put it.
That's true but idk dude I've worked with some POS so far
Not applicable to this situation but most likely the case in the other post you're referring to, it's usually the pre-curser to asking the staffer to take said analyst off the deal.
At some point, the analyst becomes too much of a liability and there's a limit to what you're willing to put up with. If removing the analyst dramatically improves your life and the analyst shows no sign or desire to improve, there comes a point where you just have to cut your losses.
That makes sense, thanks.
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As the liberal communist left continues to suck the masculinity out of men, and promote a more weak and feminized version of what it means to be "man", men's assholes will naturally follow suit. They will become much more sensitive due to the feminization men will undergo, as well as all the pegging they will be receiving from the women they let control their lives like little bitches, thus as a result they will seek out softer toilet paper to accommodate their now weak and sensitive assholes.
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