Can you make it on wall street from Fordham / Baruch

I started a BSc in finance at Bocconi this year. My home country (eastern europe) is not very attractive for finance so my end goal is to try my luck at wall street (correct me if im wrong but i feel like london is becoming less and less competetive in terms of opportunities to make it big). I got into a target in the US last year but couldn't go because of financial aid. I'm applying again this year, but for base case let's assume best I can do with good aid is a school like Fordham / Baruch (i have decent experience in finance and maxed out stats but zero volunteering and other bs that ivies look for). My ultimate goal is switch to buy-side asap too - best case L/S fundamental equity because that's what I'm genuinely interested but obviously I'd take anything.

That being said, how do recruiters feel about schools like Fordham / Baruch. Assuming that I have the merit  to get through assessment centers and interviews, I'm concerned that the non-target background will be an auto reject in normal SA application processes.

For the switch to buyside, I no clue how important the undergrad is. Could it hurt my hedge fund recruitment later in my career or is this process purely based on merit and previous work experience?

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Based on the most helpful WSO content, making it to Wall Street from schools like Fordham or Baruch is absolutely possible, but it requires a strategic approach. Here's what you need to know:

  1. Recruiter Perception of Fordham/Baruch: While these schools are considered non-targets, they are still located in NYC, which gives you a geographical advantage. Proximity to Wall Street means more networking opportunities, alumni connections, and access to events. However, you will need to work harder to stand out compared to candidates from target schools.

  2. Breaking into Wall Street:

    • GPA and Internships: A strong GPA (ideally 3.7+), combined with relevant internships (e.g., boutique IB, PE, or VC), is critical. Recruiters will look at your experience and ability to demonstrate interest and skills in finance.
    • Networking: This is non-negotiable. Use LinkedIn, alumni networks, and cold emails to connect with professionals in the industry. Many non-target success stories on WSO emphasize the importance of building relationships to secure interviews.
    • Resume and Story: Tailor your resume to highlight your finance experience and craft a compelling narrative about why you're passionate about the industry. This can help overcome the non-target stigma.
  3. Switching to the Buyside:

    • Undergrad Importance: Your school will matter less as you progress in your career, but it can still play a role in headhunter-driven processes. Hedge funds and PE firms often prefer candidates with strong pedigrees (top schools, top firms). However, exceptional performance in your roles, strong networking, and a track record of success can outweigh this.
    • Merit and Experience: For hedge funds, demonstrating your ability to generate profitable ideas is key. Focus on building a strong foundation in fundamental analysis and developing compelling investment theses. Writing two strong investment ideas (one long, one short) can set you apart during recruitment.
  4. Challenges and Opportunities:

    • Challenges: Non-target candidates often face auto-rejections in online applications. This is why networking and referrals are crucial to bypass these filters.
    • Opportunities: Success stories from non-target schools like Fordham and Baruch show that it’s possible to break in with persistence, strategic networking, and strong performance in interviews.

For more insights, you can explore these WSO threads: - https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/private-equity/buyside-recruiting…</a">Buyside recruiting is really demoralizing as a non-target - https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/investment-banking/recruiting-tip…</a">Non-Target Recruiting Guide Part I: Resume and Networking

In summary, while your path may be more challenging from Fordham or Baruch, it’s far from impossible. Focus on excelling academically, gaining relevant experience, and leveraging NYC’s proximity for networking. With determination and strategy, you can achieve your Wall Street and buyside goals.

Sources: London Tier 1 Buyside Recruiters List, Why Do BBs even hire from Non-targets?, Buyside Jobs out of Undergrad, Buyside recruiting is really demoralizing as a non-target, Buyside recruiting is really demoralizing as a non-target

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Yes you can make it from Baruch / Fordham.  Will it be easy as a transfer?  Absolutely not.   

I think best path is stay at Bocconi (or Ivy I guess) crush it, get a job at a BB bank that allows analyst transfers and transfer over after Y1 and recruit thereafter.  It’s a pretty tried and trued path and I know a few people who have done it and landed in pretty good seats on buy side 

 

Maybe this is a silly question, but is the information about internal transfers publicly available or do I need to figure it out through networking? 

 

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