Deferred Taxes and Provisions

only use cash taxes exclude non-operating - should be starting with EBITDA anyway, so not sure how you'd have non-operating items included to begin

Thanks. I need the value of non-operating assets to get to total firm value (value of operating assets + value of non-operating assets).

If I take out the deferred taxes, should I subtract the value of the deferred liability (as a debt equivalent) from the firm value when I calculate the equity value?

Thanks for the help.

Some people start with Net Income, in which case it'd be something like this -

Net Income adjusted for Net Interest (after tax) = Unlevered Net Income adjusted for Change in Deferred Taxes= NOPAT

Then regular adjustments for depreciation, CAPEX etc.

I have to ask who are you doing this for? Banking or Buyout shop?

The way it would be done for each actually differs...

I'm doing this for banking...

Maybe a better way to ask this, is:

If I only use cash taxes, do I still have to subtract deferred tax liabilities from EV to get to my Equity Value?

Sorry for being slow with this, but I thought that if there is a deferred tax liability account, the company will eventually be required to pay more taxes in the future.

If this is the case, don't I have to subtract it from TEV to get to Equity Value since the account is essentially an obligation for future payment?

You are right - you have to subtract DTL from TEV because it is a future liability. For DCF purposes assume that the dollar amount stays the same for the projected period. If your senior banker wants it differently they should give you guidance

So just to make sure one last time:

I should add-in (take-out) any decrease (increase) in deferred taxes to only reflect cash taxes, correct?

Should I then ALSO subtract (add) any deferred tax liability (deferred tax asset) account from my TEV to get to Equity Value?

Should I just use the book value for this?

Thanks for your help

Say your working in ER, using the sec financials, would i assume that the DTA and DTL stay same throughout the projected periods?