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  • Intern in HF - Event
2mo 

Bump, any material difference between these two?

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d123123213213dqwdqwdwqdwd, what's your opinion? Comment below:

They're both elite groups - pick based on who you vibed with more.

If all else is strictly indistinguishable then I would pick EVR - way better firm recognition (outside of those who know Rx) and the group is killing it right now.

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  • Intern in IB - Gen
2mo 

Evercore: stronger name outside of finance, higher pay

Houlihan: stronger name in RX, better hours 

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  • Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
2mo 

First criteria is fit. Both are excellent names and you can't go wrong with either, so do the one where you can see yourself getting along with others in the bullpen.

If you're completely indifferent fit-wise, would choose EVR RX. Viewed as a better analyst program and will work with smarter kids.

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NewYawkCity, what's your opinion? Comment below:

If your a hardo for RX, go HL RX. Historically the #1 player in the space. Sure evercore as a firm overall is more prestigious, but HL RX is still top dog.

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  • Intern in IB - Cov
2mo 

i thought pjt was #1 cuz they're more debtor side and HL more creditor side, am i misguided?

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YabberShneebs, what's your opinion? Comment below:

I would argue EVR is better considering they do debtor work. HL Rx is just a volume creditor shop. They have like 200 rx employees while everyone else has max 40.

Don't know why this forum has a hard-on for HL Rx. The experience you get there would be worse than any EB Rx, unless you're staffed on their premier deals.

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Petition33, what's your opinion? Comment below:

HL has a stronger global presence than other EB RX groups, hence the bigger group size. If we are talking about HL RX in the US, the split between debtor and creditor work is roughly 50-50. HL RX is also known for offering one of the best group culture and analyst experience on the street. You clearly have no idea what you are talking about, prospect.

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  • Incoming Analyst in IB - Gen
2mo 

You clearly work at HL. You can even see in Rx league tables they have 4x the group size yet in Q4 2022 they had 50% of the dollar volume advised than everyone else lmao.

HL does nothing special they are once again a volume shop, they are a solid shop but definitely below in terms of EB experience. Once again if you aren't the top analyst you are going to be staffed on some BS creditor work of a company with a $25m capital structure. Evercore/Lazard are above HL Rx.

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  • Intern in IB - Cov
2mo 

Depends on who you know and how well you connected. Same shit, different wrapper. 

  • Associate 1 in PE - LBOs
2mo 

If you are in the loop, you'd know HL RX is not what it once was. Just look at how many summers decided to return...they lost half their class and every Penn kid. Exploding kids in 2 days to force kids into accepting without being able to accelerate other processes is also a scumbag move and not T1 bank behavior. Top kids no longer go HL.

If you don't understand this, you don't go to a top target or are some random person.

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  • Intern in HF - Event
2mo 

Not a take I've heard from any of the rx people at my top target. Other than the kind of shitty offer timeline, care to elaborate why?

  • Intern in IB - Restr
2mo 

Associate 1 in PE - LBOs

If you are in the loop, you'd know HL RX is not what it once was. Just look at how many summers decided to return...they lost half their class and every Penn kid. Exploding kids in 2 days to force kids into accepting without being able to accelerate other processes is also a scumbag move and not T1 bank behavior. Top kids no longer go HL.

If you don't understand this, you either don't go to a top target or are some rando. 

Inaccurate. I personally know a Penn kid (JWS, so I'd argue they're pretty top tier) that is returning + another JWS who is incoming SA.

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  • Intern in IB - Gen
2mo 

Did you ask either of the teams about their on-cycle exits this year? I found both EVR and Laz higher ups happy to discuss and proud

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  • Intern in IB - Restr
2mo 

Not sure about other offices but HL NY has had recent (last 2-3 years) exits to SPC, Oaktree, APO, BX, KKR, Centerbridge, with multiple analysts heading to several of the listed funds. From an exits perspective they're right up there with EVR and probably outdo Lazard, although they're definitely a step below PJT, which has had a consistent pipeline to APO PE

League table argument is moot given a majority of the mandates these shops land are out-of-court, but HL does seem to be losing larger mandates to PJT and EVR. I'd venture to guess that analyst experience in NY is closer to PJT/EVR/LAZ/MOE, but probably not comparable for HL analysts in the satellite office.

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  • Intern in AM - FI
2mo 

Not on a per-capita basis. HL has significantly 2-3x RX class sizes compared to EVR's 6-7 but the same or worse absolute # of exits.

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  • Intern in IB - Cov
2mo 

I love how where Wharton kids would go is like a real criteria to evaluate how prestigious an offer is

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dcfml, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Can anyone speak to HL RX LA, maybe compared to NY RX offers? Would appreciate any insights 

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