Feeling inferior to the lateralled A1/2s

Guys, not sure if you got the same feeling.

But it seems that some teams are full of juniors who have worked at big 4 / boutiques / corp dev with 3-4 yoe joining as A1 and these guys are much more competitive

Coming from an SA to IBD FT background who is shit in modeling, I feel myself more inferior to these guys. Some of them do extremely well and as someone making associate soon, I just don't know how to manage / "mentor" these A1/2s

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  • Analyst 3+ in IB - Cov

I have 3 years of IB from SA and they have 4 years of TAS + 1 year of IB.

Process wise I think I maybe slightly better but everything else we seem more or less equal, I maybe even worse in modeling.

As I am making associate soon, I am not sure how I can mentor other A1/2s with 4-5 pre-IBD yoe we are interviewing. We even got people with 6 yoe (3.5 TAS 2.5 corp dev) applying as analyst

I feel like my bosses are dumb to hire me or SAs instead of some gunners who are aiming A1 with well overqualified working experiences..

Smoke Frog, what's your opinion? Comment below:

You shouldn't have low confidence, you should have confidence.

They were losers who couldn't get into good schools or good banking programs.

You're 3 years younger and make the same money. They are the losers, not you.

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TheBuellerBanker, what's your opinion? Comment below:

I wouldn't say losers for them but yeah OP won in the sense that he got the job before them. Just make sure you exude confidence as this guy said as it'll help you with your work product and even in situations where you have to ask for help. Just because some guys have more exp doesn't mean a thing. This is a meritocratic industry so go out there and do good work, you'll be recognized for it. Since you've been there longer, mentor them on the politics and the inner workings of the group if you can but don't feel obliged to do so if you're not compelled. Just don't worry about their experience and the lack of yours. I always say never underestimate the competition but more importantly, don't overestimate them.

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JustHereToGetBy, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Yeah trust me lol they know haha. They've been doing shit like this 5-7 days a week the last 3 years while you were literally thumbing your ass in school learning about the BlAcK ScHoLeS method lol.

Everyone knows they're going to be better than you, they might make 10-15k more in bonus, but at the end of the day they're 25 or 26 and your 22 so… you'll be good. You're actually ahead of them if you want to get technical.

NuclearPenguins, what's your opinion? Comment below:

Yep. OP, you're in the exact same seat as all these other guys but younger. Pure modeling chops also aren't the most important part about what makes a "good" junior anyways - so much more in terms of not making mistakes, slide work, not dropping the ball on deadlines, process management, etc. 

And even if OP's bonus is lower, on a post-tax basis it's really much less meaningful anyways.

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