How much non-pto free time in IB/high finance?

Hi, I am a prospect in IB and wondering how free time works at either your bank or banks you have knowledge of at both junior and senior levels. I've read on this forum that many banks as of late give sporadic protected Saturdays at the very least. How predictable would these days off be, and how "free" are they? Would I be able to go out of cell service range/communication with work for the whole day? Would I need to use PTO days for this? How acceptable is using a single pto day every month or two? I'm big into fitness and nature and desire a full day "offline" every couple of weeks and am wondering if this is compatible with the IB lifestyle. Also, knowing how much time before work for something such as a workout/getting ready would be helpful.

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Based on the most helpful WSO content, here's what you need to know about free time in investment banking (IB) and high finance:

  1. Protected Saturdays and Free Time:

    • Many banks have implemented "protected Saturdays" policies in recent years, especially for junior bankers. These policies aim to provide at least one day off per week, typically Saturday, where you're not expected to work unless you're on a live deal or facing urgent client needs.
    • However, the predictability of these days off can vary. While some banks enforce this policy strictly, others may have exceptions, especially during busy periods. It's not always guaranteed that you'll be completely "offline."
  2. Freedom During Protected Time:

    • The level of "freedom" on protected days depends on the culture of the bank and your team. In some cases, you might be able to disconnect entirely, but in others, you may still need to monitor emails or be reachable for emergencies. Going completely out of cell service range might not always be feasible unless explicitly communicated and approved.
  3. PTO Usage:

    • Using a single PTO day every month or two is generally acceptable, but it depends on your team's workload and culture. PTO is often reserved for vacations or personal emergencies, so frequent use for "offline" days might raise eyebrows unless you communicate your needs clearly and plan around team schedules.
  4. Fitness and Nature in IB:

    • Balancing fitness and nature with the IB lifestyle can be challenging but not impossible. Many junior bankers carve out time for workouts early in the morning or late at night. Depending on your bank's hours, you might have 1-2 hours before work for activities like exercise, but this requires discipline and efficient time management.
  5. Senior vs. Junior Levels:

    • Senior bankers generally have more control over their schedules, but they also face client demands and travel obligations. Junior bankers, on the other hand, have less predictability and are often at the mercy of deal timelines.

Tips for Managing Free Time in IB:

  • Communicate with Your Team: If you need a full day offline occasionally, discuss this with your team in advance and plan around deadlines.
  • Leverage Protected Time: Use protected Saturdays wisely for activities like hiking or fitness, but stay prepared for exceptions.
  • Maximize Efficiency: Incorporate fitness into your daily routine, even if it's just a quick workout or walk.
  • Choose the Right Bank: Some banks are known for better work-life balance than others. Research and target firms with a reputation for respecting protected time.

While the IB lifestyle is demanding, with careful planning and communication, you can still find ways to prioritize fitness and nature. Just be prepared for some compromises, especially during busy deal cycles.

Sources: What are IB Intern Hours Actually Like????, Bonus Season - Comps, WARNING : Do NOT enter IB (coming from a VP at a BB), IB Summer Analyst WFH Hours, Death from Overwork (Karōshi) in Finance

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Lifestyle you are describing is not really compatible, one of the main reasons why I left. This job robs you of any ability to plan ahead of time let alone spend an entire day out completely offline. The expectation is that you are available 24/7/365 if needed. What you can hope for is good seniors that know what work is urgent and requires weekend time, but very few get that good fortune

 
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I will be as candid as I can, in investment banking, especially on the junior level, you are being paid for the sacrifices you make. This unfortunately includes being available 24/7, sacrificing sleep, and general well-being, and even occasionally missing things like weddings and vacations when need be. You do get a little more control over your schedule as you move up, but this is a competitive industry where people sacrifice everything to move up and win. this is why a lot of people leave after a year or two. I still think investing banking is absolutely worth it on the junior level for a year or two, since it’s not that much in the grand scheme of things, however, those sacrifices get more nuanced as you move up the ladder

 

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