I saw someone asking if he should take a regional LMM boutique over UBS (I think he was trolling). The worst tier on the WSO tier list is UBS. I saw a thread where every UBS kid said he wanted to leave. Is it that bad at UBS?
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It's bad because of where the bank is relative to the expectations from a few years ago. In a pool of other BBs and EBs, you're definitely not getting the same quality or quantity of reps, but there are definitely worse places to be. I left because I felt that there was nothing left for me, but if you're a young kid with no other option who doesn't mind grinding, there is a path to strong exits. Especially if you get into a group with a rainmaker (LevFin, C&R).
Half of the ASOs and VPs are dildos though.
Would you have any additional background about UBS’s C&R team? Specifically in London
One of the stronger coverage groups at UBS (still losing a lot of mandates though compared to 3-4 years ago). Run by Levin, who now splits his time between C&R and Healthcare, but he's a rainmaker and you'll get good reps under him. Don't know much about London but the FSG group has deep relationships with consumer-specialized EMEA sponsors (PAI, Cinven) so I assume they benefit a bit from that.
Yes run (don’t walk) away
Yes but in bold
Am a 2nd year analyst at UBS. It's fine if your goal is to do banking for 2 years and to leave to PE. Terrible if you have any interest at all in staying for beyond those 2 years. Know a few people in my year going to top UMM firms and many others going to well established smaller UMM/MM firms.
could i ask what group your in?
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