Moelis NY or JPM M&A
Which bank would you choose in terms of comps, culture, exits. Analyst role, if prioritize PE / HF exits, which would you choose and why?
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MOE NY imo... JPM M&A will give you large cap exposure but MOE will get you better training. Exits are the same from both, more or less. MOE obv will have better comp
Do you get RX exposure in MOE NY
Thought you need to choose group ?
What are other banks that you would take over jpm M&A?
Any top RX / boutique groups
MOE NY
Moelis
I’m for the camp of pretty much taking any EB over any BB group (besides GS TMT/FIG and MS M&A) tbh. Significantly higher comp + better experience with the same exits if you’re a star analyst.
Depends on Moelis group, won’t have issues with jpm M&A
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Moelis if you want MMPE. JPM if you want MF. Check past exits, I don’t make the rules.
Went to a target, no one was considering taking JPM over Moelis. This is true even if its JPM M&A
lol then everyone at your target made the wrong decision. Also you can’t decide to choose jpm m&a over moelis for summer so your’re inventing a scenario.
At the end of the day, just look for exits on LinkedIn or look at the people in the 2-3 years above you. Very easy to see that Moelis sends very few to real MFPE programs (even target kids at moelis mainly go to MM) and JPM M&A sends way more. Comp is similar and shouldn’t matter at this stage.
lmao JPM M&A doesn't send that many kids to MF PE lol. Exits are more or less the same across these two so not sure why you're trying to pump up JPM M&A
Not sure how common knowledge this is but if you have a competing and equivalent offer i.e. EB or GS/MS, you can leverage that and soft guarantee the group.
Also not sure how you got the way more. The looks they get is pretty similar from the headhunters so it's more so ability to close. I also compiled the list of MFPE associate backgrounds in a sheet when I was going through PE recruiting and JPM M&A does not have way more than Moelis.
I know it’s hard to think long-term early in your career, but for anything outside of finance, international jobs, MBA programs, etc. the JPM brand will do a lot more for you. If roles/exits are somewhat similar, I always advise taking GS/JPM/MS for this reason. Good luck.
It depends what you’re optimizing for.
Brand name: JPM all day.
PE exits: probably not a huge difference; maybe a slight edge to JPM M&A just because reputation can open a few more corporate doors.
Comp: Moelis.
Exposure to mega-cap situations: JPM.
Variety of companies and raw deal volume: Moelis.
I went to a top target (HYPSM), and honestly the bias there is the opposite, most people would take JPM over Moelis. I’m not convinced the “everyone would pick Moelis” narrative holds broadly; it probably depends on the school and the specific social circle. I can see it being true in the harder-core finance crowds. Think the HYPSM's are better represented at the top BB's over EB's and cross-offers usually go the way of GS/MS over any EB.
For what it’s worth, I was at GS, so I don’t really have a dog in the fight.
Congrats on MIT!
Went to the H in the HYPSM.
Agree with all of this. I'm also at a target school (MBA in my case) and was surprised by how many classmates took their BB offer, given the choice of a BB and EB (which many had), and despite the higher EB comp.
All the EB people at my school had a certain 'personality matrix' (optimizing for pay, raw reps; caring less about brand recognition outside of finance), and the BB people had sort of a different matrix (optimizing for that same brand recognition, arguably a little better WLB protections, et cetera).
Also depends on what groups you think you could place into at MOE. If RX, HCS, M&A i'd take it in a heartbeat. If you know anyone at the firm, ask abt these groups' recent placements vs. JPM M&A (albeit still incredibly strong).
If you see yourself in finance long-term and don't care about branding, hard to take a pay cut and go JPM for the same/ worse exits depending on your group at MOE, especially when you will get a lot more exposure to modeling.
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