Moelis NY VS. Goldman FIG for MF Exits
Have lateral offers for both. Looking for pros and cons, which recruits better into MF
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You'll have people arguing for both but even though there might be one that does marginally better than the other one in a given year. When you get between two top groups like this, it'll likely just depend on you as a candidate.
Can't imagine any firm will refuse to give you an interview coming from either as opposed to the other
Love this take, imo go with what you feel is right OP! Congrats on the opportunities. If you don't mind me asking are these analyst level?
The only right answer
Any insights into Goldman fig culture / hours?
I usually agree with the take above about these rankings being splitting hairs but honestly I think you have to take Goldman FIG here. The way I see it a few top groups (GS FIG/TMT, PJT RSSG, MS M&A, maybe 1-2 more) are in a differentiated class even from other top BB / EB groups. Know someone at one of these and while other groups at top banks can exit to MF PE, it is only at these groups that MF PE will specifically cater to and go out of their way to get you.
Yep agree, the BB groups that are the "top" would be GS FIG/TMT, MS M&A, MS TMT (Menlo and M&C).
Unsure about JPM top groups but theirs would be HC, M&A and M&C but personally don't have an opinion on how they would stack up vs the top groups at GS and MS
Agree with this comment. Think it's 100% GS FIG.
At JPM's top group and what the user above said about PE groups specifically catering to you is completely true. Essentially every analyst who even remotely puts in time/effort into prepping for recruiting consistently placed into any megafund / top UMM.
Both options don't have great culture, but it seems you've made the choice to ultimately decide based on MF exits. Can't speak as much for Moelis, but GS FIG probably places very well into MFs partially because the people in FIG seem to be very hard set on going to a MF and they're by far the top FIG group on the street. Have noticed FTAM (Fintech + asset manager) coverage within FIG puts you in a way better position than if you cover banks / spec fin / insurance though so if you'll be working in those groups I'd consider Moelis more
Is there a specific Fintech coverage team at GS FIG? If yes, do you know if the structure is the same in London?
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