Real Talk: Morgan Stanley is Becoming Irrelevant

I mean it's not even playing second fiddle to GS anymore. It's playing third fiddle to GS and Dimon's gang. Imagine being beaten at your own game (IBD) in pretty much every league table by some retail bank. That would be like Wells Fargo beating you.

Is MS even relevant? They're tiny (market cap is like 80 billion, that's smaller than Roblox or Lucid Motors), they don't have a commercial/retail arm like Citi, Wells Fargo or RBC that keeps them relevant and recognizable by people outside high financé and they're expanding into PWM which is very very unprestigious (PWM is basically mutual/insurance sales).

I think ML should be the #3 bulgie bracket, because of their titantic retail/commercial division (Bank of America) and the more recognizable and prestigious Merrill Lynch brand name.

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Yes. Morgan Stanley is irrelevant. Nobody there makes a good living, nobody finds it impressive that you procured a job there, and nobody there leaves for an attractive exit opportunity.

Excellent take on your part. 

 

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