Selling JPM
Going to be a S show at JPM. People back in the office Tuesday. No one wants to be there. Big swinging Ds trying to act like tough guys like they really want to be there, but they are scared. All of the young people are pissed they had to go back to NYC and in the office. I think the young people are going to intentionally go to parties and bars and get close as possible to the MDs in the office. Thought JPM was better than this. This will end badly for JPM. Easy poaching from there if you are looking for talent.
I'm sure I'll get MS...but have you people looked at data in the last 6 months? If you have a condition or are vulnerable then I get it, but if you are a healthy young person, I truly don't understand the apprehension.
You all seem to be fine going to restaurants and drinking with friends but not going into an office with reasonable precautions?
Just wait until the MDs or senior leadership gets infected - JPM will backtrack so fast.
Careful, I said this on a previous thread and got piles and piles of MS and hate.
Such a stupid analogy. Going to a restaurant is a purely indviidual made choice. I can go or I can not go with aboslutely zero reprecusions. Having a senior banker ask me to come into the office is much less of a choice and more of a "you need to do this or there will be unspoken consequences for you".
This is IB, not some kind of mcdonalds role. Kids literally kill their mental and phsyical health for these roles and b4 you say "oh not at my shop, it's just the shitty culture ones"... your shop isn't the only one that exists lmao.
Lastly, I used to work in IB coverage. What is gained by having kids go back into the office? Unless you've got a shitty VPN and wifi situation at home then there's almost no decrease in productivity in fact there's more working from home. You dont take a late night 3 am uber to whic your driver wakes you up when you arrive home lol.
No bone to pick - i loved my time in IB, but when companies talk about "oh no facetime culture" and then say "come back into the office during this pandemic" it is just idiotic and moronic.
If you don’t have the commitment to the clients and the business, perhaps get into something a little less stressful, say like gardening.
You are correct and they worked their asses off to get there and most of them are pretty damn smart. What these juniors know is that it was total BS to bring them back to the office and that's what pisses them off. Most were living for free at home in a safer situation. The banks like JPM forced them back into the office. So now I hear some scared MDs are saying, because you are in the office with all of us you cannot go to restaurants and bars and you need to be very cautious. To that the juniors are saying BS and go F yourself. You made us come back to our s hole box apartments in a now crappy city, but you will not control our personal time and what we decide to do in my spare time. Remember your work/home lifestyle balance? Well now you can live with the results of my lifestyle when I bring it to the office. Sad to say, but the virus may spread to the families of many because of stupid decisions made by firms like JPM.
I’m confused. Were you not in NY before Covid? Did JPM kidnap you and ship you to NY?
Or did you choose to sign an offer to work in NY and choose to rent the apartment you are complaining about.
Pre-Covid: Everyone complains about working in banking
During Covid: Everyone complains about working from home
Return to office: Everyone complains about returning to the office
Echoing your point about people not being afraid to go to restaurants and hang out with friends (being at low risk as it is to begin with), but all of a sudden fearing to go back to work tells me that it's not the virus that's the problem.
Sounds like productivity is taking a slump: https://www.bloomberg.com/news/articles/2020-09-14/at-jpmorgan-producti…
can't wait for guys to start getting covid from having to go the office and getting fat as fuck settlement packages and not having to work a day in their lives anymore
bars arent even open in nyc right?
They've been open for a while now (outdoor obviously), and starting Sep 30th 25% capacity indoor dining can commence.
Bro do you not wanna live your life?
Some of these ppl are actually happy living in their parents house for months on end and jacking off three times a day.
Fuck that.
I work at the regional in the NYC metro area, and we’ve been back in the office with a 50% rotation for the last 2 months. We’ve had no cases either, which leads me to believe other banks can do it too with confidence and little risk of mass infection
I am sure they can, but is the juice worth the squeeze? The potential risk worth any benefit if there is a benefit? Performance will be down.
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