Should I be trying to upgrade?

Hey everyone, I have accepted a SA offer at a top EB in London (Laz/PJT/Roths), but have recently seen a lot of people I know applying to places like GS, JP, MS, Ares etc...

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I guess I have FOMO and am worried that these firms are better than my summer placement and going directly into IB is worse than recruiting for PE out of undergrad.

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I am just trying to maximise my opportunities to exit to the buyside out of undergrad (with a focus on MF PE) but am unsure if doing my SA to full time at my bank is better spent elsewhere.

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Any opinions or input from those working in the industry would help a lot, thank you.

 

Hey there! Congrats on your SA offer at a top EB in London - that's a fantastic achievement! Now, about your FOMO, it's completely natural. But remember, the grass isn't always greener on the other side.

While GS, JP, MS, Ares and the likes are great firms, your EB (Laz/PJT/Roths) is also highly respected and can provide you with excellent experience and opportunities. Going directly into IB is not necessarily worse than recruiting for PE out of undergrad. In fact, it can provide you with a solid foundation of skills and experience that can be very valuable in PE.

As for maximizing your opportunities to exit to the buyside out of undergrad, doing your SA to full time at your bank can be a great path. It gives you the chance to build your network, gain relevant experience, and prove your abilities.

However, if you're really set on PE, it might be worth exploring those opportunities as well. Just remember, there's no one "right" path. It's about finding the path that fits your goals and interests the best.

So, take a deep breath, do your research, and trust your gut. You've already achieved a lot, and there's no wrong choice here. Good luck!

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I appreciate you taking the time to write this and thank you for your insights. Definitely helps a college kid make a decision and not do dumb stuff early in my career. Thanks for all the useful links!

 
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Short answer no. You know that you shouldn’t worry about this and are asking for reassurance. I will give it to you.

  1. Be grateful you have a job at all. Also realize many people at those other shops might have their jobs cut. Especially in PE it’s starting to and about to be a bloodbath. Having a job at all at a good firm puts you in a unique class of individuals. This will become more true as people get laid off.
  2. You have no idea what the job entails. You might love IB or hate PE. Eventually as you gain experience in your career you will be able to make a more informed decision on what the best path is. The optimization you are doing now is like a 3rd grader saying they want to go to the best college for space exploration. It could really be they become an astronaut, but likely they will learn a bunch between 3rd grade and college that will have them choosing an alternate career path. Just focus on learning and you will learn plenty in your current seat.
  3. The hair splitting you are doing is like comparing across ivy league schools. Sure, Wharton might send a ton of kids to the “top shops” but ultimately really smart kids at Dartmouth do just fine. Most Firms aren’t so stupid that they only hire from Goldman and ignore all other resumes unless they have only that name. Also, if a firm really did hire like that, would you really want to work there? They probably are crap investors because they aren’t trying to hire the smartest people and are instead focusing exclusively on people that all have the same experience and background.

Personal choice is going to play a much larger role in your future earnings than the minor differences between the firm you are at and firms other people go. There are 2 ways to make a lot of money:

  • Take risk and venture off to a new fund or strategy that is growing where you get in early
  • Work hard for a very long time and move up the chain at an established firm.

Figure out which one you want to do and what you are willing to sacrifice to get your goal then work toward it. Do you really think MD’s at your bank wish they were at Goldman? Prob not. The key is optimizing for whatever you want and there are so many factors like location, hours, culture, politics, strategy, that it’s really not worth obsessing over comparing the prestige of your first job. Especially when the differences you are talking about are so close.

 

Thank you for taking the time to write this. Sometimes you just get caught up in the hype and feel a bit idle if you're not applying and your peers are. I appreciate your perspective and guidance.

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