Hi folks. i've been having trouble getting interviews and i'm thinking about showing some models i've made to show them that i've already taught myself most of the basics and can apply them. does anyone think this could be a bad idea ?
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You could do this, but it won't address the underlying problem. If you are not getting interviews, it has something to do with your application. Do you have any relevant experience? How is your GPA? Did you do any networking? Generally speaking, if you can check the box in all three of those, you will get a first round interview at almost every place that you apply to.
LOL for sure don't do that...if you're not getting interviews you need to address the underlying issue: GPA, poor resume etc. Ways to overcome that have been addressed at length...
99% of people won't care. It's banking, not buyside. For banking there's only a bar to meet (GPA, work experience, activities, answering technical questions correctly) and beyond that it is all fit.
A possible exception is to discuss models you've built with people with which you've networked and have developed a deeper relationship. Don't approach it as showing off but more for asking for feedback on the work you've done. But again, most bankers won't be enthused
i'm applying to Dubai, which i think explains most of my problems. really small teams. nationality frictions maybe i dunno. but now i'm sitting without off-cycle for next year. i'm from a target with a french eng background. GPA doesn't matter here we don't even really have one. what matters are rankings on your entrance exams and i'm really well ranked. i've even got good grades on test subjects. no real exp but i've done the London freshman spring weeks at BB's. Networking i've done that and yet have failed to get an itw at most places. i'll be dedicating next week to networking/getting interviews for whatever i can find in either London or Dubai so i thought it could be a good idea to show that i can do the work already but apparently not so. i will try to discuss it with folks i've networked and where i wasn't able to get an itw yet. might help and not much else to do.
Then what I said stands, just meet with people, be personable and make a good impression. More or less all you can do, unfortunately. Focus on being personable rather than risking appearing a nerd who models in his free time
If some wannabe sent me a model and wanted to discuss it, I'd be thinking:
(1) How do I know this kid actually built this model? Maybe he got it off a friend or the internet.
(2) Fuck, he wants me to review his model? Because I can't make any conclusions about his modelling skills unless I do that. Does he realise how much time that takes? WTF would I want to to spend time reviewing his model when I could be working on one of my deals or going to a bar with friends or spending time with my wife? Giving candidates half an hour of time for an interview is enough. I've got fucking work to do. Does this kid really have so little understanding of the value of my time to me?
(3) We've got plenty of kids knocking at the door who have decent GPA, can present well in an interview etc. So why would I burn up a lot of my time looking at this kid's model when I already have perfectly good candidates? He may be desperate and have no choices, but I have plenty.
(4) If I bother to open it (which I wouldn't) - I hate this format. Not because it's a bad format, but because I'm used to a particular style that our bank uses. This model doesn't use that style, which makes it take around 300% of the time that I'd need to check one of our internal models.
(5) Does the kid not realise that I'd be thinking (1) - (4)? Does this kid have any empathy at all? Is this going to be another socially challenged kid like the one we had who picked his nose all the time? Does he think that I've got nothing better to do all day then go through his shitty model? And how did this kid get my e-mail address? Fuck, kids these days.
Dude. With me as your analyst you (the asso) can go on that Wednesday night date, come back at 8 45 am and find a proper deliverable that won't embarrass you with the clients/boss. how does one communicate this ?
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