Swiss IB scene, how to get in?
Hi all, I'd like to hear your thoughts on the Swiss IB scene.
I have been studying there for almost a year now at graduate level, and most banks here propose graduate programs / off-cycle to us MSc students. It seems a bit disconnected from the usual path that I have been reading there on WSO for the past years but makes sense regarding the culture here I'd say.
I would like to know if any of you knows more about good tricks/ways to get in IB here. I have met a few IB analysts/associates, but places are insanely limited. There is not even that many new job offers showing on LinkedIn, etc...
I would also like to know what aspects would change from Geneva to Zurich. Other than the language, are there any sorts of preferences for a specific degree type, experiences, etc...
Not quite sure about what you mean? Apply for an off-cycle, perform well and hopefully receive an full-time offer / graduate program?
FYI offcycles are extremely common in continental europe. I would even go as far as to say that the odd thing would be to get the Analyst gig without one.
When firing is extremely hard, companies have to ensure they are able to see how capable you are without risking being stuck with an analyst making $$$.
Does FYI mean Full year internship?
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Very few spots in Geneva/Lausanne, and you'll only find Swiss banks and a few boutiques. They all focus on mid cap and french is a requirement. Way more spots in Zurich (but way less than Paris or Frankfurt). You'll have most of the US/EU/CH banks there but German is also a requirement in most cases. I only know Nomura Greentech and big 4 that hire non German speakers but they're usually French or Italian speakers. Source: I did an off cycle internship in Geneva. I'm currently in London but thinking about relocating to Zurich as there are good infra funds
Hey do you mind PMing me? I’m interested in moving to Switzerland after graduation and hoping to get into the IB scene there. Thanks
Hey do you mind PMing me? I’m interested in moving to Switzerland after graduation and hoping to get into the IB scene there. Thanks
Hey do you mind PMing me? I’m interested in moving to Switzerland after graduation and hoping to get into the IB scene there. Thanks
Hey do you mind PMing me? I’m interested in moving to Switzerland after graduation and hoping to get into the IB scene there. Thanks
Hey do you mind PMing me? I’m interested in moving to Switzerland after graduation and hoping to get into the IB scene there. Thanks
Hi,
Working in Zurich in M&A so can offer some pointers below.
1) Most of the M&A scene in CH is in Zürich. To a lesser extent local banks have small M&A teams in Lausanne & Geneva, and the Big4 are active there as well, but it's more limited than in Zurich.
2) Very difficult in Zurich without German, and same thing in Lausanne / Geneva without French. There is a fair number of large multinationals in Zurich where the CorpDev teams will recruit non-German speakers (at least some of them) but for banking it's quite rare to see that. If you do not speak a single Swiss national language it's going to be extremely difficult getting any jobs in Switzerland. PE firms typically don't recruit other than post-IB people, except Partners Group which has an ANL program quite interestingly (don't know if others do that but not to my knowledge).
3) IB spots will be tricky, but you can also check the Big 4 transaction teams, I have knowledge of at least one case of a non-german speaker there. Could give you a foot in the door. It's very difficult to hit an IB internship first without relevant expereince. Most people I've seen get some kind of no-name internship early in their studies, then get a Big4 internship and finally land an IB internship (or several). Given 90% of Swiss students go through Bachelor + Master (5 years), people build up quite a bit of experience usually (e.g. taking one year between bachelor and master to do 2-3 internships, then leverage that to get a solid IB internship during their master)
4) The 6-months off-cycle internship is a big thing in Switzerland. There are also Summer internships but generally most people I know go through these more long-term internships which are adverstised on the banks' websites same as the others. In any case you will need either to go through an internship + return offer, or be lucky and see an open position for a FT position (and in such case you will need M&A internships on your resume; wouldn't focus too much on this path it's quite unlikely).
5) Which uni are you studying at? If at St. Gallen you need to register for all the on-campus stuff (especially the banking week) where basically all the main players hold events. Companies in Zurich tend to hire generally a lot from St. Gallen (most of the recruiting from MBB / IBs are either strong European unis or St. Gallen)
If you could give more insights into your situation we could give you more ideas (although there are no "tricks" to my knowledge). What is true for every bank in the world is true for CH: without relevant internships you won't land anything. If you have decent internships, good grade average (CH at least 5.0/6.0 and being closer to 5.5 will make things easier), and a decent brand-name (e.g. SG) then you have chances of landing an IB internship. UBS/CS are clearly the most active there. And again, without German it will be a bit tricky for most IB gigs (you would need to be far better than any other german-speaking candidate, which is unlikely)
Thank you for your answer.
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