Turning Down Ross School of Business

Pros: You can go to other schools. Cons: There are not many schools better than Ross

It is difficult to weight pros and cons without knowing your situation.

I assume the "84" is your birth year and thus we're talking MBA. How is this a big deal. People turn down Ross every day (I did). This question is unanswerable without knowing your alternatives and your career/geographic aspirations.

Turning down Ross as opposed to? Fill in the alternatives and we can provide our input.

Turning down Ross BBA for LSA Econ. Undergraduate. Assuming I have relevant IB internships.

LSA= London School? Louisiana? ??? Confused.

LSA = Michigan's Arts and Sciences

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Based on what you've posted, it sounds like you are turning down Ross in favor of Liberal Arts Econ at Michigan.

Dunno about that. Michigan isn't quite as strong in Econ as it is in business, though I still think it's a good school. For that, you really want Minnesota in the Big Ten, Chicago, or really some northeastern Liberal Arts school. IIRC, if you are a Michigan resident, you can get in-state tuition at Minnesota.

If you're really passionate about Econ, I'm not going to stop you- just say that while Michigan is still top 20-30 for Econ, it's not top five like it is for Business. You're giving up a lot to leave Ross for liberal arts; Minnesota has the stronger program, and it's probably in-state if Michigan is in-state.

Judging from your AWFUL written communication skills in trying to convey a very straightforward question, I think you're the one person on this site that would get a better GPA in a business program than in a liberal arts program. Not because you're necessarily good at the former but because you're so bad at the latter. Go with Ross.

EDIT: I just realized I'm kind of a dick.

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Bad communication skills? Methinks he would make a good engineering major. Oh wait, that's me!

Txo nga tsun tslam fì'u nga nerd.

I graduated from Ross several years ago, so let me give you some insight.

LSA is considerably easier than BBA. No bullshit required classes and BBA classes are highly competitive. However, OCR is twice as good as LSA. These are the major differences in a nutshell. Of course, there are other factors such as tuition costs and EC's that differ, but those things are very minute. If you're thinking about taking BBA classes just to learn, you could also do that while you're in LSA and vice versa.

Seems like you're aspiring to become a banker when you graduate. If you have connections and already have a banking internship as a freshman under your belt, seems like you wouldn't need much help from OCR to land a BB gig your junior year, or even sophomore year.

Don't listen to all these prestige whores. Whether you attend Ross or not, you have a good shot to land a job as a full time analyst upon graduation. It's whether you want to smooth sail through college and go into banking or work your ass off and still go into banking with a good brand name.

Good luck!

Take Ross, because LS&A is not targeted at all for IBD/S&T jobs. i am deathly serious about this.

Definitely take Ross. I'm speaking out of experience. Not only is recruiting much better as a BBA compared to LSA, but there is relative grade inflation in Ross. The kids might be smarter in Ross than in Econ, but the curve is def better in Ross. Intro business classes are curved to a B or B-. In upper level business classes, 60% of class gets A- or above and the worst kid in class gets a B-. Econ classes are generally curved to C+ or B-. I learned the hard way that GPA matters most in recruiting.

hey guys lets do a Stern vs. NYU then. I think both are not that good, but if you had to pick...

You said you wanted to study Psych in LSA on CC. Read my latest response there.

What a bunch of prestige whores, who prbly don't even understand how recruiting works.

OP, although Ross can give most students recruiting advantage as it is more of a target and you can apply to top jobs in your JUNIOR/SENIOR year with a click of your mouse, I think your case is a special case. Assuming that you did quality/substantial work at your internships, you're more experienced than most rising Ross juniors if not most Ross seniors. And you got all those before your sophomore year. That is pretty impressive and very rare. Ross doesn't offer you any recruiting advantage for your sophomore year. Thus, I'm confident if you want a shot at top BB jobs in your sophomore year, Ross won't help you at all. Even when junior year comes, with your experience (again, assuming they're substantial and that you build it up with another sophomore internship), you can very easily get interviews through networking (its easy because of your experiences. Its hard for most people because they don't have jack shit but naivety, thinking that their waitress job can land them a BB IBD gig with networking). So, we have established the fact that Ross won't help you much in your sophomore year and even when junior year comes, an LSA kid with substantial experiences can easily trump most Ross kids (most of whom don't have those experiences) with networking. In your case, i think you have everything to lose going to Ross (redo GPA, more workload, bullshit classes) but nothing to gain (especially when even Ross kids have to network. Think about it this way. Networking basically accomplishes two things. First it allows non-targets' resumes to be reviewed and second, it helps with the selection itself. Ross kids will also need to network. But their networking will only help them with the second benefit because they already have the first benefit. LSA kids, through networking (putting in as much as Ross kids' networking effort) automatically achieves the two benefits without having to go through the bullshit Ross kids have to go through). Therefore, I say if you go to Ross, you have everything to lose, but nothing to gain.

The everything to lose nothing to gain point is not valid.

^ how so? Aren't you the one who wrote (paraphrased) "a top candidate (one who has relevant internships) at LSA is equal if not better than most Ross kids in recruiting?"

Guys, thanks for the responses. I decided to turn down Ross.