but from everything I have heard I think of U-Chicago as being a very heavy quant focused and libertarian in economic/philosophical ideology. Also hear the school is quite challenging in terms of work load and grading policy.
Northwestern offers a lot of "soft-side" academic business opportunities and my perception, perhaps false, is that it is a more engaging school in terms of campus, Big 10 sports, etc.
Either one can get you where you want to go if you handle yourself well academically and partake in career/networking opportunities.
Personally, I'd go Northwestern b/c, again from my perception, I would rather be around people who don't wear pocket protectors and carry around protractors and would rather grab a deep dish and watch a game.
U of C is A LOT of work. If you think IBankers put in a lot of hours, think again, U of C is work,work,work. Northwestern is more relaxed and is def a better school socially (i.e. girls, football Greek life)
I second what these guys are saying, it is unfair to Chicago because it is a far superior academic school but as far as recruiting, they are essentially equal. As an undergrad, you will get to bask in a lot of the reflected glory from Kellogg so that is a great selling point for you. And don't listen to whoever said "just get a 3.75 in Chicago"... yeah you will be in the money if you do, but more likely your GPA will be significantly lower than if you had gone to Northwestern.
I second what these guys are saying, it is unfair to Chicago because it is a far superior academic school but as far as recruiting, they are essentially equal. As an undergrad, you will get to bask in a lot of the reflected glory from Kellogg so that is a great selling point for you. And don't listen to whoever said "just get a 3.75 in Chicago"... yeah you will be in the money if you do, but more likely your GPA will be significantly lower than if you had gone to Northwestern.
This guy's right on the money. You get a far superior education at Chicago, far superior social life at Northwestern, equal recruiting, and no way your gpa would touch 3.75 in all probability if you were to attend UofC. Some kid got a 4.0 there a few years ago, and it was a really, really huge deal. A good college buddy of mine transferred from there, was pretty fucking smart, and still only managed to pull off a 3.3 (at my school, which is a top ten school and very much a target he pulled of a 3.8 or so).
Northwestern over Chicago for sure; you would have much more fun at NU, with Big-10 sports and a good Greek scene. Go to U Chicago if you want to get a PhD in Econ or something.
I hope you guys realize that recruiters and b-school admissions look at both your GPA and your school. So it doesn't matter if your GPA will be lower at Chicago, because if you compete head-to-head with a Northwestern kid, they'll discount the Northwestern kid's GPA accordingly. If a bank is looking at a 4.0 from Harvard and a 4.0 from MIT, all else being equal, the MIT kid has the leg up.
Same as with different majors. An engineering major with a 3.5 has a much better chance than any liberal arts major with a 4.0.
The most important thing for you to be thinking about is getting laid at prom. If you live in the now and develop your personal skills, that will outweigh any marginal difference between UChicago and NW. Relax dude, you're what 17?
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They're both awesome schools. Visit them both, talk to students, and go where you feel like you would fit in the best. You'll have a lot more enjoyable four years than if you go to one over the other for its "feeder" aspects.
in all honesty, one of my very good friends since middle school went to UChicago, i went to northwestern. hes a year older than me, and i remember him going into school saying that the crappy social life stuff is exaggerated, that it cant be that bad.
it is that bad.
the women are hideous. the classes are excruciating. the students snort coke and discuss Nietzsche on saturday nights. the greek life is terrible.
another friend of mine who goes there says "the only thing that goes down on you is your GPA"
another famous slogan for UChicago: "Where fun goes to die."
Northwestern Econ is not a piece of cake. its the most popular major in the school of liberal arts, so there is tons of competition, especially from those number crunching asians that sit in the front of the class with a mean mug. if youre one of these azns, then it doesnt matter where you go because you will beat the curve. if not, then pick northwestern because its relatively easier, significantly more fun, in a much better location (two beaches on campus, and during the summer it is arguably one of the most scenic campuses in america, whereas UChi is the southside of chicago), hotter chicks, and Kellogg.
Consulting more stressed at NU, but none of my (qualifited) friends that wanted IBD positions struck out completely, some in Chicago some in NY. Both great schools and will serve you fine for IB recruitment, maybe UChicago would be better because of its connection with Booth? Dunno. Personally I wouldn't base your college decision no a slight edge in IB recruitment status -- where would you rather be? Which fits you better? Which campus do you like more? Etc
Uchicago has incredible academics. Northwestern is more fun, but it's still not the definition of a crazy party school. Go for the academics at Uchicago. There are fun people everywhere so if you're outgoing you'll have a good time.
UChicago. Coming from UC, a lot of misconceptions are actually overblown. The difference ends up being minimal, but I had the same choice and after ~4 years, and having heard from both sides (constantly meet NW kids), I will for sure make the same choice again.
Can't go wrong with either school. I attended Northwestern and there is definitely more of a preference/interest in consulting than banking among the students in general. There is a heavier focus on recruiting for Chicago offices and you may need to do some extra work for NY offices; this may be the case for UC also.
Biggest difference is that Northwestern has a Football team and division one sports.
UChicago probably has a slight edge now considering how highly ranked it has become in the last few years, but honestly it doesn't really matter. I just went to the one that gave me more money.
UChicago & Northwestern Info Sessions? (Originally Posted: 07/13/2015)
I'm a rising Junior. Great school, and there are definitely alumni that work in IB, but it's still considered a non-target in the eyes of investment banks.
I've been networking my ass off, but I'm persistent and determined to utilize everything and anything to get my foot into IB, including attending another school's Info Session/Career Fair. UChicago and Northwestern are within reasonable travel distance, and I'm definitely open to /crashing/ an event, but that's assuming there's even a chance of successfully getting in. I understand that it could be a total win and seen as persistence and determination or just a complete loss and seen as desperation (in addition to getting side-eyed by students from there), but I'm not going to know unless I try.
So to any UChicago and Northwestern alumni, what are these events like? Is there online registration via Student Portals, or is registration in person? Do I need to swipe an ID to get into the venue? What's security like? Is there even a chance of getting in, or should I just completely forget about it?
If I were a recruiter, I would be significantly annoyed if someone tried to do this. It would be even worse if I were an alum of either school. Can you imagine going to pick up UChicago/Northwestern kids and getting handed a resume from some random school by a kid who decided to completely bypass security/registration? I'd recommend not trying it.
I agree with Wall St. It definitely doesn't look favorable to show up from a different college at an event for a specified college's students and alum. Just keep networking the way you are. Do you go to UIUC or something? I think they have an IB program similar to IU Kelley's. I think it's only open to business school kids, but it seems to place well.
You can try, but from my experience, UChicago students/alums are pretty elitist and most likely won't give you a second look. Wouldn't hurt to try though.
You'll probably be worse off than just trying to network with your school's alumni. As a alumni, I'd be pretty annoyed showing up on campus and receiving your non-target resume. Appreciate the hustle, but it's not right.
I'm in the same boat at DePaul, I was actually considering doing the same thing but wasn't sure how recruiters would react. I actually know two students from DePaul who did this last year and got summer analyst IB positions at MS and JP Morgan so it might be worth a shot.
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I think they're close enough that if you got accepted to both, you should look at other aspects of college life.
If you decide to go to Chicago be prepared to work for your GPA.
really boring with ugly chicks...northwestern is marginally better
in terms of recruiting they are prob close to equal..pick whichever u liked better
I'd say Northwestern is a better feeder...
u of c will hurt your gpa
Not true aachimp. On the average, yes, it will. However, if he manages to get a solid 3.75+ at University of Chicago he is going to be in the money
but from everything I have heard I think of U-Chicago as being a very heavy quant focused and libertarian in economic/philosophical ideology. Also hear the school is quite challenging in terms of work load and grading policy.
Northwestern offers a lot of "soft-side" academic business opportunities and my perception, perhaps false, is that it is a more engaging school in terms of campus, Big 10 sports, etc.
Either one can get you where you want to go if you handle yourself well academically and partake in career/networking opportunities.
Personally, I'd go Northwestern b/c, again from my perception, I would rather be around people who don't wear pocket protectors and carry around protractors and would rather grab a deep dish and watch a game.
U of C is A LOT of work. If you think IBankers put in a lot of hours, think again, U of C is work,work,work. Northwestern is more relaxed and is def a better school socially (i.e. girls, football Greek life)
I second what these guys are saying, it is unfair to Chicago because it is a far superior academic school but as far as recruiting, they are essentially equal. As an undergrad, you will get to bask in a lot of the reflected glory from Kellogg so that is a great selling point for you. And don't listen to whoever said "just get a 3.75 in Chicago"... yeah you will be in the money if you do, but more likely your GPA will be significantly lower than if you had gone to Northwestern.
This guy's right on the money. You get a far superior education at Chicago, far superior social life at Northwestern, equal recruiting, and no way your gpa would touch 3.75 in all probability if you were to attend UofC. Some kid got a 4.0 there a few years ago, and it was a really, really huge deal. A good college buddy of mine transferred from there, was pretty fucking smart, and still only managed to pull off a 3.3 (at my school, which is a top ten school and very much a target he pulled of a 3.8 or so).
yeah, Chicago's intense workload and equal recruiting as Northwestern makes Northwestern the first choice in my book.
Northwestern over Chicago for sure; you would have much more fun at NU, with Big-10 sports and a good Greek scene. Go to U Chicago if you want to get a PhD in Econ or something.
northwestern evanston campus has kellogg in it which is a great tool for networking if youre into that.
This is the first discussion I have seen 100% agreement on.
Northwestern. Campus life is far better and recruiting opportunities are about equal.
The most important thing for you to be thinking about is getting laid at prom. If you live in the now and develop your personal skills, that will outweigh any marginal difference between UChicago and NW. Relax dude, you're what 17?
UChicago has a more highly repected econ program. So that may give them a bit of an edge.
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NU, Chicago is way too hard ass for an 17-21 year old.
NU only because UofC is hard.
They're both awesome schools. Visit them both, talk to students, and go where you feel like you would fit in the best. You'll have a lot more enjoyable four years than if you go to one over the other for its "feeder" aspects.
NU - same as Chicago academically but easier
in all honesty, one of my very good friends since middle school went to UChicago, i went to northwestern. hes a year older than me, and i remember him going into school saying that the crappy social life stuff is exaggerated, that it cant be that bad.
it is that bad.
the women are hideous. the classes are excruciating. the students snort coke and discuss Nietzsche on saturday nights. the greek life is terrible.
another friend of mine who goes there says "the only thing that goes down on you is your GPA"
another famous slogan for UChicago: "Where fun goes to die."
Northwestern Econ is not a piece of cake. its the most popular major in the school of liberal arts, so there is tons of competition, especially from those number crunching asians that sit in the front of the class with a mean mug. if youre one of these azns, then it doesnt matter where you go because you will beat the curve. if not, then pick northwestern because its relatively easier, significantly more fun, in a much better location (two beaches on campus, and during the summer it is arguably one of the most scenic campuses in america, whereas UChi is the southside of chicago), hotter chicks, and Kellogg.
Northwestern. Hands down.
Northwestern or UChicago for undergrad? (Originally Posted: 04/05/2015)
UC slightly better, NW much more fun
Consulting more stressed at NU, but none of my (qualifited) friends that wanted IBD positions struck out completely, some in Chicago some in NY. Both great schools and will serve you fine for IB recruitment, maybe UChicago would be better because of its connection with Booth? Dunno. Personally I wouldn't base your college decision no a slight edge in IB recruitment status -- where would you rather be? Which fits you better? Which campus do you like more? Etc
Uchicago has incredible academics. Northwestern is more fun, but it's still not the definition of a crazy party school. Go for the academics at Uchicago. There are fun people everywhere so if you're outgoing you'll have a good time.
UChicago. Coming from UC, a lot of misconceptions are actually overblown. The difference ends up being minimal, but I had the same choice and after ~4 years, and having heard from both sides (constantly meet NW kids), I will for sure make the same choice again.
But thats just my perspective.
Can't go wrong with either school. I attended Northwestern and there is definitely more of a preference/interest in consulting than banking among the students in general. There is a heavier focus on recruiting for Chicago offices and you may need to do some extra work for NY offices; this may be the case for UC also.
Biggest difference is that Northwestern has a Football team and division one sports.
UChicago probably has a slight edge now considering how highly ranked it has become in the last few years, but honestly it doesn't really matter. I just went to the one that gave me more money.
UChicago & Northwestern Info Sessions? (Originally Posted: 07/13/2015)
I'm a rising Junior. Great school, and there are definitely alumni that work in IB, but it's still considered a non-target in the eyes of investment banks.
I've been networking my ass off, but I'm persistent and determined to utilize everything and anything to get my foot into IB, including attending another school's Info Session/Career Fair. UChicago and Northwestern are within reasonable travel distance, and I'm definitely open to /crashing/ an event, but that's assuming there's even a chance of successfully getting in. I understand that it could be a total win and seen as persistence and determination or just a complete loss and seen as desperation (in addition to getting side-eyed by students from there), but I'm not going to know unless I try.
So to any UChicago and Northwestern alumni, what are these events like? Is there online registration via Student Portals, or is registration in person? Do I need to swipe an ID to get into the venue? What's security like? Is there even a chance of getting in, or should I just completely forget about it?
Any and all feedback is much appreciated!
If I were a recruiter, I would be significantly annoyed if someone tried to do this. It would be even worse if I were an alum of either school. Can you imagine going to pick up UChicago/Northwestern kids and getting handed a resume from some random school by a kid who decided to completely bypass security/registration? I'd recommend not trying it.
I agree with Wall St. It definitely doesn't look favorable to show up from a different college at an event for a specified college's students and alum. Just keep networking the way you are. Do you go to UIUC or something? I think they have an IB program similar to IU Kelley's. I think it's only open to business school kids, but it seems to place well.
You can try, but from my experience, UChicago students/alums are pretty elitist and most likely won't give you a second look. Wouldn't hurt to try though.
You wouldn't be able to get into one at UChi
can't get in at NU either
You'll probably be worse off than just trying to network with your school's alumni. As a alumni, I'd be pretty annoyed showing up on campus and receiving your non-target resume. Appreciate the hustle, but it's not right.
How NON-target are we talking?
I'm in the same boat at DePaul, I was actually considering doing the same thing but wasn't sure how recruiters would react. I actually know two students from DePaul who did this last year and got summer analyst IB positions at MS and JP Morgan so it might be worth a shot.
North Western U vs U of Chicago? (Originally Posted: 06/28/2012)
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