Unattentiveness at work is getting me into trouble 3 months in
Hi guys, wanted to get your opinion on something because the problems are increasing and I really need this job (and the bonus).
For the record, I have always been kind of a "dreamer". Like, in school I'd stare out of the window for hours and hours, and my academic record has been very bad because of procrastination etc, and I'm just really bad at making a plan and sticking to it. That would be difficult in most jobs, but in the MM where I am working now, it´s getting me into real trouble lately. It's actually a relatively chill group, I enjoy the sector we're in, I'm the only analyst in our sector team, and the MD is a really nice and chatty guy.
But I'm catching myself dozing off during conference calls, or forgetting long-term tasks, or starting a thing and not finishing it, and it's like I'm trying to catch water in my hands, it just flows away. If I focus on something 100%, I finish it really fast, and well (I believe). But most of the time I just get confused, and muddly, and then the concentration and willpower sort of fizzles out. The VP is starting to notice and has given me a bit of a talking already, and I really, really need this job (student debt). And I have to think about the future as well - how can I ever me a successful worker if I can´t focus and plan? My family has a history of AD(H)D and it might be that, but I am kind of afraid of adderall (my brother got taken off it because he's fat and smokes).
Would appreciate any inputs, opinions, experiences with this.
On the outside, the description fits ADD / potential ADHD. No harm in speaking with a dr about the troubles of focusing since it's now impacting your job. As someone who has ADHD, I didn't start on medication until my senior year of college. It's easy to skim by when you have easy access to lecture materials, classmates, and a fail-friendly environment, but having an intense job that requires you to be "on" all the time is incredibly difficult if you can't manage your ADHD accordingly.
As a side note, Adderall will not be the perfect solution. Yes, it will help, but you also need to take other initiatives outside of medication to control it.
A lot of it comes down to willpower and seeing every task as a piece to how the macro fits together. What I mean by that is if you’re on some boring ass conf call, write everything down. Force yourself to get every detail - then after it’s over, condense those into 2-5 bullets that you’d send your VP/MD if they weren’t able to attend. Like if they asked you what happened, you’d send them that.
Consider using some sort of work tracking/checklist tool. When someone gives you a task/timeline/etc then immediately write it down and then add it to your tracker when you get back to the desk. There’s a bunch out of here but Asana, Trello, MSFT To Do, Google Tasks, etc - can break out by deal, by senior, whatever. Pay attention to the timelines and chip away at tasks or just sit down and bang it out. I was super bad about sending update emails, updating trackers and other annoying workflows until I just told myself that I needed to make a list and jam through it one by one.
Which brings me to my next point - I can be really bad about doing 80% of the task and switching to something else so often times I will force myself to take it to the finish line. Sometimes that’s not an option but if it’s a model update or new pages or a turn or whatever, put your head down and get it done. That’s part of the job, getting stuff done.
The last thing I have is that I would encourage you to think about how each task is working to achieve the teams goals. This can be difficult when you receive stupid requests but that’s the common thread between high-achieving orgs - everyone has a job and they do what they’re supposed to do when they need to do it. Think about good sports teams, elite military units, well-run companies - everyone does their specific job to the best of their abilities before going and trying to do something else. You don’t see Steph Curry peeling off his man to go guard the post - he’s tight to his guy until he has to switch and then he’s on to the next. Your job is to do what the VP/MD tell you to do, if that’s to be on a conf call and take notes then that’s what is best to help the team. If you’re asked to update the diligence tracker for some stupid request from someone who isn’t going to hit the bid, then get it done. After you’ve done what you need to do, and after you’ve been doing that for a while, then you can start to freelance a bit. Your job is to be reliable and to get stuff done so show that you can do that. Not to be too dramatic but if you don’t fix this then it’s going to follow you around, so grab the bull by the horns, put some guardrails in place and your team will notice the improvement.
Solid post - could someone make this into a "____ is paradise" series.. lol
"Self-organization is Paradise"?
Imo most WSO paradise posts are made to make fun of cocky college kids/juniors fantasizing about an industry and poking holes in the fantasy. This was a serious and helpful post so not sure how that would be turned into a paradise post.
Came in here to give advice but but it’s hard to add anything useful that wasn’t mentioned in those two great comments. Only thing I’ll add for you OP:
I went through a similar situation. Always had symptoms of ADHD growing up. I refused outright to be evaluated and didn’t want to be dependent on any medication. During my first years out of college I realized that the same coping mechanisms that worked in HS/College simply didn’t work in the corporate world. I ended up speaking to a professional and was diagnosed. But even if you go that route, no medicine is going to “fix” things. It’s 90% about forming habits like the ones outlined above. I promise you that if you start doing those organizational things (tracking tasks, making lists, etc.) it will pay massive dividends in your performance, and also your mental health.
can i dm for advice, in a similar sitch
Work on your self control. I have a ADHD and anxiety but stopped taking medicine in middle school due to weight loss and loss of personality. Long term adderrall abuse is horrible. Besides increasing the rate at, which you age, it will leave you senile by the time you turn 60
Don’t turn to drugs in times of stress, you have to get a control of yourself and follow through with your responsibilities.
Hope this gives you some perspective.
Same situation bro - heading to get myself tested for ADHD next week. I am worried it'll affect my performance kinda in the way u are experiencing it - honestly if Adderall is the solution i don't really mind it.
Nothing special to add but will say the following
1) In terms of specifications for a task I always tend to forget something if going off of memory. I switched to writing every point down and after I finish reading off the points to the superior to make sure I have it down. Then I go through and highlight each point when making changes. This has been a game changer for me in terms of work product
2) I create “meetings” on Outlook to remind myself of deadlines and progress points when I have a lot going on with the title being the task. This has really helped me to make sure I get work done on time and remember all the deadlines necessary.
Just so you know -- it's "inattentiveness."
I also used to be a daydreamer in elementary/middle school, but realized during college that it was probably due to a lack of sleep that my brain was unable to concentrate on things. Once I started sleeping 8-9 hours/night consistently in college, I was really able to pay attention/excel in my classes.
So a few things:
I actually used to be really good at remembering everything I was told and doing everything, details and all.
But, lo and behold, COVID-19 sent everyone virtual, and that all went out the window for me. I'm easily distracted by the technology in front of me and doing literally all of the things you list.
Here's what I've done to correct this:
1. Become best friends with Outlook (or Google Calendar or whatever you use)
2. Do some general "stupid-proofing." Again, acknowledge that you're going to forget things if doing things mentally. How can you fix points that you forget most?
To remember things like completing projects and long-term goals, try using some sort of to-do list app. Personally, I use this free service called Notion. Really helps to stay organized as you can set due dates and such to keep things in mind and have some kind of timeline. If you can get into the habit of using it every day it could help a lot with this sort of issue.
(if you go with Notion, look up "Notion GTD dashboard" to get a sense of how it could be set up)
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