What's OCR like at your school?
Curious to hear what the OCR scene is like for your school and how easy it was to get interviews.
I go to one of H/Y/P, which all the "ranking" threads always denounce as a target. I definitely agree that I go to a target given the amount of alum we have in banking, but it was surprising to me how few firms actually came to campus. Many of the EBs especially didn't host presentations on campus, so networking with alum was much more valuable than OCR. Has OCR been helpful for you? Also don't mean this in a way of being ungrateful, as I know being at a target affords me many opportunities and nontargets have it much harder and are grinding out there.
Go to non-HYP ivy, pretty much all firms have resume drops on handshake but only a handful actually come to campus to do presentations. Lots of outreach from clubs (investment group regularly sends out job fliers, even from firms that don't have actual OCR). That being said, I think the OCR aspect of a target is pretty overhyped- banks coming to campus didn't really have any impact on the recruiting process for me, it's more about what happens with how resume drops from the school are treated at the firm and if they have a set number of interview seats for the school. Didn't think I ever actually gained anything from presentations and those networking events are always completely useless.
Fax. In a circle with a banker and 10 students asking cringe ass questions
And all 10 kids in the circle slowly trying to move forward/shoulder people out of the convo. Miss me with ever going to one of those again
Jesus, it's like a nam flashback
I go to UNC:
GS: An info session, typically once per school year. MS: One info session per year; two coffee chats per year. JPM: No OCR anywhere anymore.
BAML: Two to Three info sessions per year. Citi: I heard FIG used to come, but they didn't this year. CS: A couple of small info desks for Raleigh Tech (tech ops not TMT IB). Barclays: None
UBS: One or two info sessions per year that, while aren't exclusive to, lean PWM. DB: Two info sessions per year. WF: Very heavily involved. 3+ appearances on campus. Sponsors a Valuation seminar.
UNC is a target for GS, MS, JPM (before new no-networking policy), BAML, DB, and WF.
Non target for the rest. Despite that, UNC sends people ever year to Barclays and UBS. Not quite sure about CS and Citi. Anyway, in my experience Barclays alum are will pull for you. Same with UBS but to a lesser extent.
IMO, for a qualified candidate, your best bets will be MS, BAML, DB, and WF if you only network via OCR. Solid chance with GS (if you're top), Barclays, and UBS if you network a lot on your own with alumni. Have no idea about CS and Citi. Networking hardly helps anywhere for JPM now.
For consulting, McKinsey has some info sessions, and and I think Bain has on campus interviews. Not sure about BCG. McKinsey and Bain mostly take kids for Atlanta. BCG is all over with no strong point at any single office. Accenture does on campus interviews as well.
For buyside, a lot of LMM or Boutique PE shops come on campus, but they don't actually take summer analysts. Big exception for OCR is Blackstone which did come this year and has taken summer analysts in the past but mostly takes for full time analyst.
Not really sure about MM IB.
As for EBs, none have OCR, but there are some alumni at Lazard. Very, very few at Moelis, and none at Evercore.
Idk about Big 4 OCR, but Deloitte, PwC, and EY take lots of kids for NYC and Charlotte. Some Chicago too. KPMG takes noticeably less.
I saw on the thread for UCLA how you pretty much have to get into a top club to break into IB. Not like that at UNC in my experience (someone with 0 connections before college). The main club is the Undergrad Finance Society (UFS) who typically host the banks. Anyone can join. They have an investing team with about $50k called the Portfolio Management Team (PMT) which isn't too selective. There isn't a strong correlation with being in it and placing at a BB. There is also they Reynolds Fund which has around $500k. People there typically due place well, but that's due to self selection more than anything else IMO. There are only like 100 kids per class who actually are serious about IB and even less that actually put in all the legwork needed. I'd say if you're a very serious candidate, you're competing in a group of ~70 kids. So very doable. I've seen some kids start going to OCR as freshmen. Maybe 15 at most.
Some Miscellaneous OCR: Fidelity, Vanguard, Capital One.
Among the top 10 employers at UNC period are: EY, BAML, Deloitte, Capital One, JPM, GS, and PwC.
Hope than can shed some light on the finance/consulting scene at UNC.
Edit: I just saw all the typos. Not gonna bother fixing.
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I went to Dartmouth. As of a few years back, we had every BB come on campus except DB (for some reason). In terms of EBs, we had Evercore, Lazard, PJT, Greenhill, PWP, Guggenheim, Centerview come on campus, with Moelis and Allen not coming but having a resume drop. For MM, we have most come up, like Jefferies, HL, Lincoln, MacCap, Nomura, MTS, Leerink, RBC, WF, Blair, with a couple others. No Rothschild or Baird and a few others, unless that changed. Not many other boutiques do OCR, but just a resume drop, so we had DBO, Liontree, Incentrum, Ducera, Miller Buckfire, Raine, Qatalyst, FTP, USA, etc. The newer firms also do resume drops from what I've seen on our job board.
In terms of buy-side firms. We had a couple UMM firms do OCR, like Bain Capital (Credit), Audax, Cinven, etc. Not many MF (in general anways), but Blackstone does a lot of stuff at Dartmouth. In terms of non-PE funds, we got a few smaller hedge funds, the MMs like Citadel, AQR, P72, etc. Bridgewater does a ton on campus. Fidelity, etc. Quants and props also recruit, like SIG, Optiver, Jane Street, DE Shaw, etc. Most well-known public equities firm that has an undergraduate program did OCR or a form of it.
For consulting, all the MBBs went hard on OCR. We also had the Tier2s and boutiques do a ton on campus. I think a higher % goes to consulting, or at least it did for my class, which makes sense across all Ivy League schools (besides Penn), as it is pretty LA focused.
Unlike what I see from Wharton and Harvard(?), your on-campus clubs do not matter at all. There's not even that many, with only one main finance and one main consulting club (The logic that if you're interested in finance/consulting, you're in one of those clubs anyways). What matters more is your connections, i.e. your fraternity/sorority, sport (club or varsity), other clubs.
The firms that usually go hardest on OCR are probably GS/JPM/MS, Citi, PJT, Centerview, Lazard, Blackstone, Jefferies, Bain Capital, Bridgewater, the MBBs, and a few others.
Worth noting that the Coheads of IB at GS and MS are joining Dartmouth’s board of trustees this year
I don’t think every BB goes on campus anymore. It’s just tough making the trip to middle of no where New Hampshire. For banking I think the ones that make the biggest efforts are GS, MS, JP, BAML, Citi, Jeff, PJT, Evercore, DB & Nomura. I don’t think there is much of a pipeline to CS, UBS, RBC, Moelis, PWP, Barclays, or the MM banks.
Buy side recruiting is very good. I think Dartmouth is one of the few places outside of HYWS that sends PE analysts to Bain and BX at a pretty consistent rate.
I go to Dartmouth, a lot of the information here is incorrect. I barely see any recruiting for CS, UBS, RBC, Moelis, PWP, or like most of the boutiques and middle markets. Maybe it was like this a few years back, but recruiting has ramped down a fair amount in recent years. The off cycle internships are hard af to get.
Buyside recruiting is still pretty good comparatively though (I.e Bain and BX will consistently take people).