What’s the current state of IBD at BofA?

How are the hours and culture across the top IBD groups (LevFin, FSG, REGL, etc) at BofA in NYC?

On one hand, heard like some teams can be a bit sweaty. On the other hand, have heard many teams still have bloated assoc/vp headcounts and that they technically also have weekly hour caps / protected Saturdays. Is this true?

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most teams will have weekly hour caps and protected Saturday’s, although pretty easy to get an exception for Saturday work if work picks up (varies by team, most ok leaving work for Sunday only). Would guess hours are a bit better than most of the other BBs. Culture highly group dependent 

 

Based on the most helpful WSO content, here's what you need to know about IBD at BofA in NYC:

  1. Hours and Culture:

    • The culture across BofA's IBD groups has reportedly improved in recent years. Analysts and associates in some groups are now working fewer hours compared to the past. For example, many A&As are working less than 80-90 hours most of the time, whereas it used to be 85-105 hours consistently.
    • Protected Saturdays are a real thing, and they are generally respected unless there’s critical deal-related work. Sundays are increasingly reserved for essential tasks like preparing for Monday morning meetings.
    • There’s also been a push for a 9 PM work stoppage on Fridays, which is a positive shift for work-life balance.
  2. Group-Specific Insights:

    • LevFin: Known to be a competitive and demanding group, often described as "sweaty" due to the high deal flow and intense workload.
    • FSG (Financial Sponsors Group): Generally regarded as a strong group with good deal flow. The culture is considered solid, and hours are comparable to other top groups.
    • REGL (Real Estate, Gaming, and Lodging): Specific details on this group weren’t highlighted, but it’s worth noting that culture and hours can vary significantly depending on the MD and team dynamics.
  3. Headcount and Hybrid Policies:

    • Some teams at BofA are noted to have bloated associate/VP headcounts, which can sometimes alleviate the workload for junior bankers.
    • The firm has also embraced a hybrid work policy, with most employees coming into the office 2-3 days a week, typically between Tuesday and Thursday.

Overall, while some groups at BofA can still be demanding, the firm has made strides in improving work-life balance through initiatives like protected Saturdays, Friday work stoppages, and hybrid work policies. However, the experience can vary significantly depending on the group and leadership.

Sources: Information on BofA FIG, Investment Banking Hours - What to Expect?, Investment Banking Hours - What to Expect?, London IBD Associates: hours?

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Firm in a bit of a spiral, lots of seniors have left and not sure if the replacements have done much. Saw hour caps routinely get ignored (A1s working all nighters) and weekend work was common. Lots of consecutive 100 hour weeks at times. Still has solid deal flow and exits.

 

can’t really say outside of IND or M&A (worked in 1 and a lot with the other), know C&R doesn’t really do much hahahah

 

On a downward trend, lost a lot of senior talent (and just talent in general) the past few years. Poor comp and prioritization of middle market over regular, large cap IB has accelerated exits. Koder markets that “hires outpaced departures” but doesn’t mention the departures are all the good MDs going to platforms like JPM, MS etc and the new hires are all coming from places like UBS and Truist.

 

Define better. Higher performing? Either way you’ll be in one of two camps:

  • Group A: gets worked to the bone on deals, may or may not get a good rating, gets paid like shit regardless. Mostly white and Asian males 
  • Group B: doesn’t work much, not on deals, may or may not get a good rating, gets paid like shit. Over-indexed to DEI candidates 

    So either way, ratings are a crapshoot dependent on DEI status and you’ll get paid badly in all cases. Question is do you want to work on deals and work a lot, or coast making day in the life tik toks. You can do either within all groups at BofA because they are all bloated. 
 

Worst comp, lost all good MDs, bloated with underperformers, underperforms on M&A mandates and secondary or tertiary roles on IPOs. No surprise IBD leadership turns over almost every year.

 

It is a tale of two cities. If you are competent, you will worked to the bone since there are a lot of terrible performers and no one wants those type of bankers on their teams. I don't even think there are that many groups left at BOFA that are great anymore with all the top MDs leaving in the last year. I heard GIG was decimated. TMT has always been terrible. They moved half of leveraged finance to credit.

 

Following, would also love to hear from anyone in those groups on whether the hour caps and protected Saturdays actually get respected.

 

Since KB left he’s been gutting the TMT and M&A franchises at BofA. Almost all major rainmakers (including HM & AL) from those groups left to JPM this summer. Broader signal of Moynihan and Koder’s weak decision making. Overall bearish on the bank and think Citi may take over their market share on the M&A league tables soon.

 

Bump, curious which BofA groups people think have the best balance of deal flow and hours.

 

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