Any low-tuition targets for USA?
I am an international student from the UK, are there any target colleges which don’t have lower tuitions as I don’t want to get into a lot of debt.
I am an international student from the UK, are there any target colleges which don’t have lower tuitions as I don’t want to get into a lot of debt.
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Nope. Tuition is horrible here even if it's a non-target in a lot of cases, but I can't think of any target schools that won't set you back $50k/yr minimum.
I don’t think so, many colleges cost only 10k per year/semester
Furthermore you can also do Community College 2 years (useful also for understanding what you want to study) to reduce Risk and Overall cost and then Switch to the last 2 years into a regular College
You simply choose a College that does not cost that much and invest the money you saved alternatively eg by attending networking events to build the network for a career in Banking or Consulting or whatever you like
There are many college options that cost much less then the 50k/year, waaayyy below That
Of course they are not ivy leagues, but you don’t need really an Ivy to make it in the US (why? Check LinkedIn, there is Even an Investopedia study about it)
You think wrong and you're completely ignoring the question OP was asking.
This isn't about colleges in general and OP is explicitly asking about cost from the perspective of an international student. I challenge you, find a single school in the US that's considered a "target" (e.g. the major banks/investment/consulting firms this forum talks about either recruit on-campus or have well established recruiting pipelines) which would be less than $50k/yr for an international student to attend (this includes living exp since many will require you live on-campus for the first year or two).
The vast majority will have a sticker price of $50k-$60k+, just off the top of my head in no particular order (this is a mix of targets/semi-targets): every Ivy, UC Berk, U Michigan, UVA, NYU, UT Austin, Duke, UChicago, UCLA, GTown, NWestern, NEastern, Vanderbilt, UNC, USC, Williams, MIT, BU, BC, UW Madison, Lehigh, Smith, Emory, IU Kelley, Villanova, Stanford, Claremont McKenna. I know this because I looked at many of these schools for athletics or have friends/former classmates that attended them.
Community college is garbage and you will never be recruited through normal channels while attending one which is the whole point of OP's question. The only purpose they serve is to give you a soft landing and easy 2-years to ace all your classes hopefully transfer to a real 4-year school. Gives you a nice story of hard work/overcoming adversity but aside from that it's generally more of a detractor than a virtue unless you manage to transfer to a top school and ace everything there too - then you just look like someone who's smart about money.
Not an option when OP is specifically asking about target schools.
Numbers if wrong are likely understated since I graduated years ago. State colleges have an avg tuition of ~$10k/yr for state residents and ~$25k/yr for everyone else, while private colleges have an avg of ~$30k-35k. The avg. cost of attendance for a student living on campus at a public 4-year in-state institution is ~$20k/yr per year or ~$80k+ over all four years (worse if you're looking at private schools or in NYC/BOS/CHI/SF/LA, but we'll hold it flat at $20k/yr for simplicity), so add that to the tuition costs and you're looking at an avg of about ~$30k/yr in-state and ~$45k/yr out-of-state for state colleges, $50k-55k+ for private colleges (general rule of thumb for privates in the target East/West cities is more like $60k+). This is sticker price and not considering scholarships (merit or needs-based) but it's worth noting that across the board these schools will usually charge international students even more.
Again, OP not asking about "is it possible to recruit from a non-target" - yes, it is, and anyone using the search bar can obviously see that. They're asking about finding low-cost target schools in the US as an international student, of which I am quite confident there are none unless they want to attend BYU. I'm not saying this to be elitist, I went to a non-target/semi-target private college and could only do so because I got nearly 75% of the cost covered between scholarships and aid which made it cheaper than many in-state options. I personally wish it wasn't a pre-rec at all, but it unquestionably makes your recruiting life a lot easier if you're coming from a target which is why I wanted to answer OP's question truthfully.
You want colleges “which don’t have lower tuitions?” huh?
Can you not read past a mistake? Read the next sentance
You only wrote one “sentance.”
You only wrote 1 and "sentance" is not a word. I don't think to cost of going a target needs to be a chief concern right now, no reason to rack up all the debt if you already live in the UK.
As a British/American, that doesn't exist. It's the price you pay for the higher starting salaries over there. The best thing to do instead is to go to a UK target, work in London for 2-5 years and then transfer over, thus reaping the benefits of the country without any of its drawbacks.
Google "need blind admission for internationals" - afaik there are at least five schools that give you a tuition waiver or lower fees if you are international and IF you get in. Alternatively, google "need-aware colleges for internationals". Various schools consider all of your personal circumstances and do not focus on your financial situation alone.
https://www.studyinternational.com/news/need-blind-universities-in-the-…
I know quite a few British and EU students who made it to a US college without paying the big price tag. But you'd still have to get in. It's either lowered fees, generous aid packages or similar waivers.
https://www.crimsoneducation.org/hk-en/blog/admissions-news/need-blind-…
It's a myth that education is expensive for every single student. If you come from lower means and your family/you can't afford the fees, but are otherwise a strong candidate - you might get the opportunity. Even as an international. It's just that not every school would be able to afford these programs for every student.
Think about the programs this way - imagine the next Einstein comes from a country where the average salary is extremely low or young people there have no means to afford a school like Harvard. It would be a shame if these people would never get a chance to change the world just because they can't pay the fees.
Id probably RSM (Rotterdam School of Management) with 2k$ per year and the most heavily targetted school in Benelux (you could also hit LND) ; constantly ranked top 10 in Europe and one of the best undergrads programmes (with HGS/Bocco/LSE/Warwck/Oxf). Copenhagen Business School is also great.
BYU
This is actually a good idea, if the international student is accepting of the honor code and other rules of the environment.
+1 to Marriott. Definitely could help to break into US finance if you’re willing to make the social life sacrifice and potentially chase an MBA as well.
This wasn't a widespread problem as far as I'm aware, but when I was there there were always rumors of international students being baptized because of the difference between member/non-member tuition (was ~$8k/semester when I was there).
move to michigan and then apply for Ross in-state
International tourists, international students, international high school students, VWP, and similar visa or visa waivers don't qualify for residency in the USA. The legal text particularly says that they can't take up residency, can't work, can't be paid, (..) and, if a visa interview is required, they ask for strong ties in their home nation (family, job, kids, ..)
What internationals *can* do, however, is to enroll in a US high school program in the US (there are various visa for it), then become part of a residency qualification process, and may then become eligible for in-state tuition.
So, something like:
(home nation) -> high school exchange program -> enroll in US high school permanently -> residency qualification -> proof of residency at/after graduation -> qualify for in-station tuition and enrollment at US college
(don't quote me on this, just a high level example)
All the internationals I know in the US who qualified for in-state tuition attended high-school in the US for many years and then qualified for residency. If you already have your high school degree/a-levels/similar from another country, you have technically "aged out" of this process to become show residency before your college years.
Maybe there are loopholes for this (ie apprenticeships/vocational programs, attend pre-college institutions, ..) but I wouldn't know how to facilitate that.
In the US, contrary to what Most people say, the name of the college has much less importance than in Europe or the UK, where it is fundamental
On LinkedIn there are hundreds of people that studied in non targets and still managed to get into BBs or MBBs.
What matters the most in the US is your network, and although targets May have more Networking events, you can also build your network separately by going to a college with low tuition fee, but that reports on LinkedIn (do the Research) a good alumni network that has several success stories in the companies you like
In Europe on the other hand the Brand of the University is fundamental eg if you have not studied at LSE for London positions, in Bocconi for Italian positions or HEC for French positions, your resume gets instantly trashcanned because per Position EU based conpanies tend to get many more applicants per position than US companies where the Labor market is very candidate-driven since decades.
Networking in the US is also much More easy, since americans and American professionals are not socially introverted in their local bubble like northern europeans (Germans, Dutch…) neither that parentelistic and family-contact based/anti-meritocratic like southern europeans (Italians, Spanish but also the French), so networking in the US might be hard but way more easy than EuropeIn any case: having a greencard or being a US citizen is fundamental to be able to profit from the US market the most.
But once you have it is the only obstacle. If you have it you are in pole positionIt's not like Europe where if you want to work i. German Teams but are not German culture+language then they don't want you.
In the US you can come literally from anywhere and have the native language and culture you currently have, Even if you Are not a classic „american", the only thing that limits you is a simple Green piece of paper (Green Card)
Harvard, Yale, Princeton and Dartmouth offer need-blind admissions and 100% need-based financial aid for internationals. I also believe MIT does this. I think these are the only 5 “top” schools that offer this currently for internationals.
I think Amherst College too (idk if they are even a semi-target tho)
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