Cornell Hotel vs. Penn (CAS)
Hi guys, I've recently been admitted to Penn Econ and Cornell Hotel School as a transfer. I'm honestly very surprised at getting accepted at both.
I didn't apply to Wharton because there's no way I could have been accepted with my 3.5 GPA, so I did CAS instead. Will I be at a severe disadvantage if I'm non-Wharton at Penn?
Cornell Hotel was my initial go to school. The placement is definitely there, but it's overshadowed by AEM and even CAS Econ to a degree.
The cost difference between the two is negligible. Which school offers the best in terms of networking and placement ? Thank you.
Cornell Hotel does place well -even in IB, albeit its usually Real Estate IB. That and most of their classes are business classes. They still take accounting, finance, etc. I would say that it's definitely a good place to go if you can tolerate the hospitality tinged aspects of the coursework; it's not pure undergrad business at the end of the day. I'm willing to bet though that CAS Econ at Penn is full of kids who want to secretly be in Wharton. Cornell's Hotel school is #1 in the world- pretty much all the kids who are there want to be there.
OttoReadmore Thanks for the reply. You're absolutely right on the Hotel School's curriculum. To be honest, I don't mind the hospitality requriments at all. I've spent all my high school working in foodservice.
But which would you recommend in terms of best chance to land a job in IB?
Disclaimer: I go to Cornell
I don't think the Penn Econ or Cornell Hotel will make a huge difference in your ability to break into IB. Hotelies have the same opportunities that AEM/CAS Econ have (or any other major for that matter) in terms of recruiting for IB and there are plenty of kids who go into IB (not just RE groups) from the school. Additionally, the school isn't known for being hard grade-wise - no idea how this compares to Penn Econ but just something to note. Also next year will be the first year of the "College of Business" at Cornell which combines AEM, the Hotel School, and Johnson, so it may be easier to take more of the AEM classes that are related to finance/IB. Either way the Hotel school has plenty of relevant classes and there are already some undergrad classes you can take through Johnson that are helpful.
I would choose based on which school you like better/if you would rather do Econ or Hotel Administration.
Thanks for the advice. I really love both schools, but it's good to know that either way investment banking can work out. I guess I need more time thinking about it.
Did you apply anywhere else?
Got in Vandy and waitlisted at Columbia.
I'd go to Cornell. If you go to Penn, major in something unrelated to Econ/Finance. Make the most out of your college education instead of playing catch-up to the Wharton kids.
I absolutely I understand that sentiment. This is what I'm most afraid of -- being stuck in the shadows of Wharton.
Are there any Penn students/alumni who could chime in?
if you KNOW you want to be in finance, why not go to penn and try to move to wharton after first year? i hear internal transfer is easier and a lot of kids do it
That would be an excellent option; however, I'm a transfer student I am restricted from transferring intra-university. However, there is a way to double major within the College and Wharton but it is extremely competitive.
my bad, i didnt read it more carefully
You can't do this as a transfer I believe
I am in the hotel school. Go to upenn
Can you elaborate? Are there any specific negative aspects at the Hotel School in terms of recruiting?
I don't think IB recruitment is as great as some people make it out to be. If you want to do IB, definitely go to AEM. Plus the classes you will take in the hotel school are so stupid you will cry.
How is this even a question? Penn is a much better school
I appreciate your upfront answer. I have came to the same conclusion as well after looking at the CAS Econ placement vs. Cornell Hotel and even Cornell's AEM program. The placement is definitely stronger at Penn, even non-Wharton.
However, I am waitlisted at Columbia. I'm not counting on getting off it, but in the case I do, would Columbia be a better choice than Penn?
Attending Penn would be a very different college experience compared to attending Columbia. Have you visited both schools? If you attend Penn, you will have the traditional college experience, which I think is wonderful. I didn't attend Columbia, but I have several friends who did. Many enjoyed it, but you have to have a certain personality to live in NYC at the age of 18.
OP, you haven't thought seriously about Vanderbilt? If this was Wharton vs. Cornell vs. Vanderbilt the choices would be obvious, but if you're going to be competing with Wharton at Penn and locked into RE IB at Cornell Hotel (not sure if that is actually the case, but based on what others have been saying) is the Ivy League stamp still worth that much to you?
Both are fantastic schools and you'll be set up well for ib. I have several friends at both and they like their experiences.
If it were me, however, I'd go to the easier school (this is assuming you like the fit of both schools relatively equally). Not to say that it'll be easy, but having to study less and get a similar GPA will leave you will more free time to network, participate in ec's, etc. I'm not sure about Cornell, but my friend sent me an article from Penn's school paper that said the average gpa for the social sciences was about a 3.30 (wharton's average was 3.35).
Assuming the econ department will have an average slightly lower than that, you might have to focus to maintain or improve on your 3.50. Grades aren't everything but they certainly make everything easier. I go to a target as well and all my friends with >3.7 gpa's didn't ever worry about getting an interview. They networked a little, sure, but not seriously.
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