I've been thinking about writing a book about being professionally homeless.. I would hate myself but I could survive on less than the poverty line. At that point though it really is more surviving, rather than living.

For instance if you have a planet fitness near you for $20 a month you have a place to work out, shower, tan, and get a haircut, theoretically you can sleep there Monday - Thursday as well. They also have free breakfast one day a month.

You just need to be comfortable taking advantage of opportunities like those.

 

If it were socially acceptable to live at a campsite, I think i would enjoy it. I often wonder what it would have been like to go the "Mountain Man" route, like the guy in the documentary who built his own cabin in the middle of BF nowhere Alaska and lived there for ~30 years. Pretty awesome existence. But the problem is it's just not socially feasible. Wife, family and friends would all think you've gone "nuts", even if it's a rational choice.

 
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The thing that sucks about being poor isn't the poor part, but that everyone else isn't poor. Kids used to have fun running around, playing tag, shooting hoops. Now they need PS3, the newest games,computers, Iphones, etc. When you are having fun kicking a can and all your friends are playing Halo, you feel like shit, even though you are having fun and playing video games isn't all that important.

Same thing with food. I find it funny how cooking at home is a hobby for the well healed who enjoy expanding their culinary prowess, but eating at home "sucks" for poor people because all their friends are going to Applebee's.

Poverty in the US is far better than everywhere else in the world. This is the only truth that matters. You don't need an Ipad to become educated and you don't need a 50 inch LCD to have strong family ties and loving parents. Think of how many kids grow up miserable, but with everything a person could want.

Love, 2 parents, a simple dinner and education are things that enrich a life. All the other stuff is just noise.

 

Poverty how? Poverty as in having no spending money, or poverty as in sleeping in a cardboard box in the freezing cold?

Not having a lot of money sucks, but if I lived in a box I'd try working my way back into society...failing that, I'd probably start killing and robbing. Or just wander South. Wander a little bit farther south everyday, and before soon be homeless in someplace warm.

Thing is this: Something like 85%+ of homeless people are mentally ill, so it's hard for me to really understand what they're thinking...

ivoteforthatguy:
the question for a lot of guys here is if you can survive prosperity.
YES, this scares me more
Get busy living
 

I lived at the poverty level for around a year. It sucks, but you will probably survive if you're not a little bitch.

"You stop being an asshole when it sucks to be you." -IlliniProgrammer "Your grammar made me wish I'd been aborted." -happypantsmcgee
 

I think we also need to clarify. There is not having nice shit and there is you're losing the roof over your head and your parents are crying every night because they can't pay the electric.

We throw poverty around without qualifying it. Material things don't make a family or happiness, but utter poverty can ruin people.

I mean when I was a grad student I lived pretty well on fellowship pay. I split an apt with a dude and didn't go out to eat a lot. Other than that it was fine. If you have a family and kids we are talking a whole different story, but as mentioned above, you could probably do just fine with very little assuming you are a single, healthy man.

The problem with this thought experiment is that all of us could do fine because we are smart. If I was magically homeless I would do the planet fitness shit to be a clean, presentable human, spend most of my day in the library and pick up some side work or temp help. Then again I am clean cut and educated.

The people who become homeless tend to have alcohol or drug issues, combined with mental problems. You aren't going to plant fitness and running a website off Starbuck's wifi with that double whammy.

 

I did peace corps and lived in poverty for 27 months. Honestly, you get over all the material things in a week or so - its really not that bad. However, extreme poverty would but much more difficult because I always had food on the table and never went hungry but those in extreme poverty do and that must be much more depressing and unbearable.

 

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