Being Cultured: Requirements
TLDR; What is the knowledge/abilities you need to have to be considered cultured in your view?
IMHO there is no more cutting insult than being called uncultured.
MOTU I appreciate many of u are busy grinding and getting that bag and as such don't have time to sample the finer things at least (at least u will have the material means to do so).
However plenty of people on here will have come from wealthy if not from traditional upper-class backgrounds and will have attended elite eductional establishments (if not prep schools then definitely Ivy League calibre colleges/unis).
What is the essential knowledge, interests, abilities, experiences etc. that one must know to be considered 'Cultured' in your mind?
To get the ball rolling for me some knowledge of art,music, literature (well-read), film and cuisine. Also plenty of trips abroad, ability to play an instrument, sporting ability, foreign languages, being well spoken, humility, and most importantly good manners and respect for others regardless of 'class', wealth etc.
This is a key aspect of good breeding that unfortunately the nouveay riche will never be able to imitate, mainly because they try to lord it over people they perceive as lower in status to them, while enthusiastically doing tricks on anyone that is 'better' in their warped, childish worldview. Sadly those they think are 'better' will usually run a mile once they see their kiss up, kick down approach to life because crucially, their mother taught them better.
This leads nicely on to the fact that someone that is cultured will typically have an open-mind and are usually always progressing in their knowledge of their interests etc.
Looking forward to hear the responses. Feel free to include examples of people you have me that you feel were cultured.
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Based on the most insightful WSO discussions, being "cultured" often revolves around a combination of knowledge, experiences, and personal demeanor. Here's a breakdown of what many would consider essential to being cultured:
Knowledge and Interests
Experiences
Personal Traits
Key Distinction
A truly cultured individual avoids the "nouveau riche" tendency to flaunt wealth or status. Instead, they exhibit humility, grace, and a genuine interest in others. They value substance over superficiality and are constantly evolving in their knowledge and interests.
This aligns with the idea that being cultured is not about material wealth or privilege but about character, curiosity, and continuous self-improvement.
Sources: https://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forum/job-search/overseas-living-and-travel-or-mixed-cultural-background-how-to-market-that-in-an?customgpt=1, Re: Does School Prestige Matter?, What is corporate "culture"? An insider's take..., David and Goliath: The Boutique and The Bulge Bracket, A Recurring Rejection Theme
Aleksey was cultured. He could bench, dance, speak a few languages, knew martial arts, played tennis, and more...RIP
Showing ur age with this troll Isaiah! Haha, very funny, whens that from like 2006-7 ?
Yeah honestly the video came out when I was interviewing for IB and consulting. It was literally the funniest thing anyone had seen and it was passed around to all the BBs and schools.
every single person ive met from Yale is like this.
I usually ask if they know about Epictetus’ stolen lamp
I think there's several things that contribute to being cultured but they can be broken down into 2 separate yet intertwined categories, which are experiences you have and how you carry/present yourself.
As for experiences you have, I think you mentioned a lot of them in your post. Things like being well-travelled, physically fit, a diverse food palette, an appreciation for the arts and unique yet cool hobbies. But I think something often left out about these is the aspects you mentioned are usually not wealth dependent (beyond a minimal amount of savings). For example, when travelling, the person flying first class to Dubai is arguably less cultured than the person who scraped enough pennies to fly to a random town in Italy or Czechia. The person eating at Nobu in Vegas doesn't carry the same "culture" as eating in a random ramen shop in Japan. All this to say, it's important to not conflate money with culture. I think this is explicitly shown with hobbies like chess or lifting where you can build a chess elo for free and a good gym can cost no more than $100 a month and yet developing either of these hobbies will set you apart or put you in a unique group of indidviduals.
And then as for how you carry yourself, I think this comes down to how you actually share the experiences that I mentioned above. If I meet you and within the 1st 10 mins of knowing you, you've already bragged about every place you've travelled or how much you can bench, it's clear you did those things for the external approval rather than yourself. Compare this to someone who, despite knowing them for a year, one day you go to the gym together and they easily rep out 315 on bench, or someone is asking about vacation plans and they can easily break out a list of recommendations to activities and restaurants in what you previously thought was a random town.
To me, that is culture
Fs being cultured is not wealth dependent.
It helps tho haha
I don't care much for literature nor art.
I think being well-travelled, outside the beaten track, as well as interested in others are important traits. A bit of optimism goes a long way. Not necessarily the nonchalant type one gets from not having a single worry in life, but a grounded belief that people are mostly good.
No need to debate the pros and cons of the Three Valleys, name drop restaurants in Switzerland, or reminisce about how F1 was better under Ecclestone. It mostly comes across as cringe.
Fs the point of being cultured isnt to flex/brag etc. and if a person is truly cultured in the widest sense of the word they would understand that. However should those topics cum up in convo they are able to more than hold their own
Well first of all, I don't think the point of being cultured is so that you can appear cultured to others. That is actually called being pretentious.
Thats not in the original post...we understand thats not the point
After all an 'interest' isnt an interest without a genuine intrinsic sense of curiosity for the subject/activity behind it
It literally says in the post that cultured people will run a mile from anyone who tries their 'kisd up, kick down' bs with them
Bump
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You don’t need money to be cultured, but you do need to be intelligent. And since intelligence and money are correlated, all three are.
I’ve never met a dumb person who is cultured. Why? Because being cultured is about appreciating and understanding things that are difficult. Anyone can appreciate reality TV, or strip clubs, or football, or pop music, or (must to the chagrin of above commenters) weightlifting. Those are not cultured. Culture is about appreciating the difficult things: opera, art history, stamp collecting, classical music, high fashion (beyond an insta influencer’s sense), sailing, chess, reading literary fiction, studying history, even knowing your wines is difficult.
If you’ve never benched 225, you are uncultured IMO
Unable to defend ur own culture anyway
I came across some interesting thoughts on appreciating art, as in Paintings etc. in terms of discovering our taste, something along the lines of we should treat it like we do music i.e have the confidence to listen/focus on the music (or art, literary works, classical music, opera) we enjoy without feeling ashamed we may not not know all the details of every major artpiece/style etc.
Although in this 'Being cultured' context some basic knowledge of the major pieces for each pursuit mentioned above would probs be necessary
Stamp collecting?
I'll bite (with some steps on how)
Eating with a knife and fork properly (Continental style)
Understanding the history of ideas (listening to the BBC podcast "In Our Time" is a great start, attempting to read the Great Books of the Western World is another)
Knowing basic geography (capital cities of most major countries, as well as a proximate sizes of each country, and a handful of facts specific to that country)
Trying a dish from every main culture, and understanding the flavors behind it (travel is the easiest way here).
Some appreciation of alcohol and how it's mixed (drinking around the world helps here).
"Cultured" means you understand Western culture (which includes continental Europe, the USA, as well as the Antipodean regions), through also understanding "Eastern" (Asia, Russia, Middle East etc) and "other" cultures (Africa, Oceania etc).
implied in your response is the need to be pretentious. Antipodean regions? Is that what they teach you to refer to it as at Eton? I've never heard a yankee refer to them as that. "Eastern" is a dated term as well. Beyond the vocabulary I agree with you wholly
Nah it’s just a handy way to refer to English speaking countries in the southern hemisphere (for example it is commonly used in both Aus and NZ - there’s a popular water brand https://www.antipodes.co.nz); but case in point, you may not have known that not having visited these places. The other thing around Eastern I mean, Russians for example define themselves in contrast to “the west”, as does Asia.
This highlights a good point around there being no one universal form of communication on these things, even in English as there are varying connotations depending on where you happen to be in the world.
Cuisine really stands out to me here, perhaps as its the most accessible and known part of the culture of a country to most people?
Also geography obvs
This thread is genuinely hilarious.
Thx cap. Pls feel free to chime in king.
May have something to do with the fact its a finance forum where the most hyped up job involves 80-100 hr weeks of fairly repetitive tasks
Threads like this always crack me up. Half the definitions of “cultured” in here just sound like code for “grew up rich.”
I didn’t grow up around wine cellars or tennis/golf lessons. No one in my world even mentioned investment banking - I didn’t find out what it was until 3/4 through uni. I’ve been around people who had nothing but grit and a desire to grind, and people who had everything and still constantly felt the need to subtly flex.
To me, being cultured isn’t about how you hold a fork or how many art galleries you’ve been to. It’s about how open you are - to people, ideas, and experiences that don’t look like yours. It’s being able to walk into a Michelin restaurant or a dive bar in the shitty end of town and treat everyone the same.
Finance bros love to confuse polish for depth. But real culture isn’t inherited or bought - it’s built through curiosity, empathy, and actually living life OUTSIDE your own bubble.
Amen. Although many people can pursue 'cultured' pursuits without money in contrast to other people of a similar low monetary standing who choose not to.
Also ur comment is hilarious, bcoz the post is about being cultured and 6 sentences into your 23 sentence comment you decide to bring up 'I didn't know about Investment Banking until 2/3 way through college'.
If u changed the tone just slightly, your comment would be an excellent parody/shitpost of WSO.
Anyway I love WSO. Here's to bringing up the fact you didn't know about Investment banking until the age of 20 unprompted in completely unrelated threads!
Btw your last 2 paragraphs could pass for AI
For poorer people lucky enough to go to uni for example, if u go to most unis you can take up a sport, join societies at very cheap/subsidised prices
Also nothing stopping a 12 yr old in a council housing estate from nipping down to the library and reading some Socrates or even the FT!
Rich people will be able to access hobbies/ travel/ niche interests easier with resources and more importantly the time to enjoy them
Bro really has 0 reading comprehension. Every comment so far has either explicitly or implicitly said, “you do not need money to be cultured beyond ability to afford an economy flight ticket or gym membership”. Some comments literally talk about how a lack of exorbitant money can make you more cultured bc you gain a more unique experience and perspective (nobu vs authentic local cuisine type beat)
Going to an Eyes Wide Shut party
Thought the whole point was to show how superficial the relationships of the characters were...
Troll comment but yes you’re completely right
Just be intellectually curious. That is it. No one is an expert at all things, most of us aren't even expert at one thing, but being interested in learning new things and broadening your horizons is all it takes. You don't need to love classical music, or postmodern art, or have read your way through most of the 100 most influential books of all time. Anyone telling you that a specific subject or topic is "necessary" to be cultured is just gatekeeping; how are you supposed to become educated on the Dutch Renaissance if you live somewhere that doesn't have access to any Old Masters?
All you need is to be open to new ideas, experiences, and knowledge, and the "cultured" part will come. No, you won't be able to discuss Van Eyck with someone who lives in Amsterdam and goes to the Rijksmuseum every day. But if you can ask intelligent questions and learn from the answers, that's 99% of the way there. And that person? Well, if they're cultured and not just pretentious, they'll want to ask you about what you know about, and learn from your answers.
start with 'no brown in town'
In American culture, anyone who traces their family history here to the Revolutionary War era is inherently "cultured." Anyone who cannot, is not. You're either eligible for Sons/Daughters of The Revolution, or you're not.
Striving to become someone you're not is laudable and necessary in certain domains (career, health, et al), yet foolish and embarrassing in others ("being cultured").
"Oh, nooo. No. We're different. I am. They are. She is. We're all different from you. You see, we were born different. It's in our blood." -Tom Buchanan in "The Great Gatsby" (2013 film)
"Im tryna Gatekeep high culture using a quote from an F.Scott Fitzgerald" quote.
Is that the same america that has "all men are created equal" in its literal declaration of independence?
Your take is genuinely ridiculous and I sincerely hope you don't believe it as a) it's wrong, being cultured ultimately means being able to enjoy lifes pleasures and the world's offerings to the fullest, a birthright of all men and b) its so classist for a country that is, checks notes, a republic.
Its one thing saying you are of better blood as a titled noble in a Monarchy, a very different (cringe, cope) statement in a republic...
If you think you can be born at birth inherently cultured (you dont understand what the word means) then you are simply a fool and as far away from being cultured as you can get.
I think you should read parts of the original post again.
Also I would put all on my money on the fact that the cultured people in the rest of the world would leave these 'sons of the revolution' in the bin in "being cultured" stakes. You know what scratch that, a college-educated european would.
One thing to inherit liberty, another to squander it.
I genuinely hope for your own sake that you dont believe aiming to be cultured isn't laudable or necessary and is in fact "foolish and embarrassing" regardless of your passport.
To lay your fallacy bare Sonny whats more embarrassing; to be cultured or uncultured?
You missed the point of the thread
The point of this thread is you inadvertently revealing your social/cultural insecurities and asking WSO to devise a plan to satiate them while you berate everyone attempting to add levity to the discussion because you’re too fucking stupid (or “uncultured”) to detect the dry subtleties of WASP humor.
Before we go any further, approximately how old are you and what general region of the world do you hail from? I don’t need specifics, but give me a general idea. I need to know how harsh I should or should not be with you, assuming I can make time tomorrow to help you out.
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