Dealing with family asking about stocks

Another holiday and another chance for friends and family to ask about mag-7 stocks, expecting some intelligent response even though I couldn't be further away from that coverage. I'm curious how most of you deal with that? 

I know it's silly but do you just say you don't follow them and move on or try to take a quick look? 

I've seen a LinkedIn post (cannot find it now) where the guy was basically saying he used some back of the envelope calculation based on earnings yield and growth. This might be a little overkill but do you guys do something like that?

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Fuck stocks buy bitcoin.

"If you don't have any enemies in life you have never stood up for anything" - Winston Churchill | "It's a testament to the sheer belligerence of the profession that people would rather argue about the 'risk-adjusted returns' of using inferior tooth cleaning methods." - kellycriterion
 

I was a financial analyst for a F500 for years doing corporate finance and friends and family would always ask me "I have $100K to invest, which stocks should I pick?" 

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

My family , like others here I assume, are white collar professionals and a few medical professionals (docs, PAs, etc) and they are absolutely clueless when it comes to stocks or real investing. Everyone wants a short cut, or to be the smartest in the room, or has no understanding of risk based returns or damn near anything. 

Very smart people whose house is their primary investment vehicle and talk themselves into making negative ROI five figure reno's every year or to take advantage of low rates to finance a new car but wont put too much in stocks because it's 'gambling' and understand compound interest as a concept but dont truly understand it.

I've come to learn finance isn't really math for most, it's behavior. Can they put off eating one cookie to have two cookies tomorrow. At the end of the day we are all just toddlers. 

 

as you can imagine, I get "what do you think about _____" all the time. less from family now (they're trained) but more from friends and randos when they find out I'm in finance

99% of the time, they just want you to agree with them, so I turn it around and say "you first, what do you think?" and they will often go into their thesis. no matter how retarded it sounds, I just say "sounds like you've thought a lot about this, I hope you get rich, good luck!" and they will almost never ask me what I think

on the rare occasions someone says "I don't knows, that's why I'm asking you" I continue to probe. if they're serious, I'll have a separate 1:1 in private, with some shit like "this is way too personal to discuss at Christmas, I'll call you when I'm back in the office"

 

So many of you are such unempathetic bores. Think about this from your family’s perspective. Most of them are in dead-end careers with little perceived hope of retiring rich, but they know that their relative is some kind of hotshot on Wall Street who may have just the ground-floor insights they need to strike it rich. Therefore, the objectives are twofold:

1. Appeal to their fantasy of ground-floor insights to strike it rich by explaining the mega-bull and perma-bear cases for different companies (bitcoin reaching mass adoption through the financial system due to 1:1 reserve requirements, but not really being based on a firm standard of value. Nvidia is powering MSFT, META, and GOOG with billions of dollars in computing hardware, but people are still trying to figure out monetization. Talk basic points on OpenAI, TSMC, Taiwan.) Give these poor b******* something exciting in their life for once. It’s entertainment.

2. After having regaled them with your storytelling, reel it back in and tell them to buy index funds because they’re 45% Mag7 anyway and return 10% returns over time because America is a great country.

You’re dealing with people in the desert who are dying of thirst and lack of excitement, and the best most of you can do is deflect and say that it’s out of your purview. Be salesy for once. Satiate their curiosity with a sneak peak behind the curtain, then deftly manage their expectations with some legitimate wisdom.  Live a little.

 

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