DeSantis thread
Now that DeSantis has launched his campaign, I want to hear WSO's views on our Florida homie. Interesting especially since WSO bros are mostly Conservative boys.
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“Tiny” Ron DeSantis is 5’7”
Lmao fr? Damn bro
That was a quote from trumps twitter
And he wears 👠
I've seen estimates from 5'9 to 6'2, but if he's 5'7 that's both shocking and hilarious.
Eh. Started off with a lot of promise but seems like me might be mostly show and no go. Trump is going to steamroll him in the primaries
I voted for Trump, but nothing motivates the opposition more than voting against Trump.
Fair point and overturning Roe v Wade will not help matters (though in the most recent polls, abortion is not even a Top 3 issue for voters anymore -- already been a year which has stalled lot of the momentum), but there are several things that are pos for Trump against Biden in the minds of voters:
1. Hyperinflation which started with Biden (not totally his fault though cutting off Keystone didn't help alongside alienating MBS). Good chance we go into a recession late this year or early next which is well-timed with the next election
2. Disastrous pullout of Afghanistan
3. Complete immigration chaos. Not just republicans, lot of dems care about this issue too (esp Hispanics interesginyl enough as they don't want more downward pressure on their wages)
4. Biden is increasingly more senile than ever before which even most democrats are starting to realize. He'll only get even more incoherent as time goes on and this stuff doesn't evolve linearly. He'll make a fool out of himself (just my speculation) in the debates next year as he loses his mind even more
You can also see that the Hispanic vote and even the Black vote is increasingly becoming Republican (incl looking at the share that voted for Trump). You also have college enrollments dropping by a big factor (which brainwash kids with a liberal agenda) -- this is more incremental for next election cycle and just a LT positive for republicans. Overall you don't need all of these independents who voted for Biden to switch to Trump. Some of them will switch but you really just need some of those people who voted for Biden to just stay home (Trump's base will come out swinging for him). The insane inflation / recession / senility of Biden will be big factors IMO. You won't have the Roe vs Wade catalyst to help the dems come next cycle as it's already faded in a huge way. The overall setup makes time an ally for trump and an enemy for biden
Hopefully trump owns him or turns his hardcore base against him.
Anything to make a democratic victory more plausible would be great.
I cannot imagine living in a country where the president is either a man that a jury found liable for assault on a women and still believes the last election was rigged or a man who despises gay people and absolutely wants women to never ever have abortions again.
Keep in mind that the demographic on this site is white, male and rich so most people are trump supporters. They don’t care what type of man he is, as long as he is on the GOP ticket.
Imagine how morally bankrupt you have to be to support Trump after all these years.
Trump is gonna beat him, DeSantis just apes Trump and has 0 charisma. Just rants about "the woke" which is annoying af frankly I thought we stopped doing that in 2015.
DeSantis is also facing heat from Disney.
Desantis SHOULD have an easy line of attack against Trump: "The election was not stolen, Trump mobilized a mob to overturn it, was found by a jury to be guilty of sexual abuse, is a Putin apologizer, and hid confidential documents for so long that the FBI had to raid his house"
The fact that he WON'T say any of these things is due to the fact that the GOP base LIKES these things, as they are a morally deprived cult. Desantis caving to these lies shows he's no more moral than anyone in the party today. Bury and the party and salt the Earth behind them.
I think Biden's chances of winning are greatly understated. A large enough portion of Trump's base won't turn out for Desantis, and a large enough portion of independents won't turn out for Trump. We all hold our nose for another election and choose the least worst option.
I agree. After the 2022 election I thought Ron DisneySbitch would be able to beat Joe comfortably. Now I am 100% confident Joe would beat Trump but I went from basically 55-45 in favor of Gitmo Ron to 75-25 in favor of Joe. I am still shocked at how the Republicans have been so unable to find anything on Joe. Like I thought they would Benghazi him but it actually seems like Joe is far less corrupt than I expected him to be. I say this because I think that is the only real chance the Republicans have at nocking out Joe. Well, to either Benghazi him or to pray for a major recession.
poppycock
I'm absolutely relieved. I believe that he'd be a better president than Trump, and I believe that the only Republican that has a chance of losing against President Biden is Trump (given that he has lost before). He's got the "bite" that the hard-line trump supporters have come to love, but I also believe that he's actually able to execute and get things done, much much more than Biden has or will be able to do.
In the last election, I voted split between Republicans and Democrats for various positions in the government (hell, my Scoutmaster, the man I respect more than anyone was a Democrat), but I cannot see a path forward for America without strong and reliable leadership in the White House, and I see DeSantis providing more of that than I see Trump providing.
More to come, but he's got my vote as of yet.
Dude please face reality. You may like DeSatnis but he's getting crushed by Trump - not my opinion, just see the data
Lmao at Ramaswamy. Guy was a savage businessman in biotech and worth like $600M. Know a few bankers who was on a few of his deals and one of the firms he worked with had more than one junior join his company post transaction so I assume it was a cool / unique opportunity.
I don't know why he went far right politically. Used to follow him but he's a nutjob.
I would prefer DeSantis to Trump although honestly, DeSantis made a fool out of himself for getting involved with Disney. Maybe would vote for Scott but he's not a strong candidate.
Well... shit
Had a lot of faith in DeSantis. Loved his handling of COVID in his state, he is really good with quips and standing his ground, and think in a pre-Trump era he would be a force to be reckoned with.
However, the more I've seen from him and Trump these last few months just brings me back to 2016. Trump is just another beast when it comes to primal playground nonsense that will win over voters like making fun of DeSantis for being 5'7, his demeanor, etc. Also take into account the media will be frothing at the mouth to get Trump back in office again (CNN and MSNBC may be built for a left audience but they WANT Trump back in charge)
I think how the left has tried to push and codify Jan 6th as if it was some 9/11 event is pathetic, but Trump legitimately did try to circumvent the American democratic process, and I dont know how you can give that a pass even if you align with most of his beliefs. The shame is Nikki Haley or DeSantis would likely steamroll Biden if he were to run again, but if I had to bet now it would be for Trump to win the nomination and in the general who fucking knows
You think it’s pathetic the left has said that trump trying to stop a peaceful transfer of power is pathetic?
Imagine living in a democracy and one of the candidates tries to end democracy and people like you are like so what? It’s not a big deal man.
lol!
You are getting your wires crossed.
Trump trying to undermine the election results is tbh unforgivable and should cost him any election going forward
Trumps influence on January 6th riots is debatable
The january 6th riots themselves, as an event, is nothing - despite what your blue check marked sources tell you (remember, they are the same people quaking in fear over COVID). In fact, the left trying to amplify the january 6th protest/riot/etc as treason and then sweeping the 100x more damaging and destructive BLM riots under the rug is about as glaring an example of cognitive dissonance we have seen in the last 20 years. Somehow only arguably beaten by the same group decrying 'my body my choice' and arguing for mandatory vaccinations.
2020-2022 was a wild time, but I am grateful for it. Really showed what some people are made of, and what others arent
DeSantis is a baboon. Twitter breaking during his little announcement is very on brand for him
DeSantis seem like another swamp creature similar to Pence, I forget so I can't quote but I remember reading he's received donations from Bush family. Also badly-timed fight against Trump, should've just ended the Gov job until the end of term and then come out for President.
I'd vote Trump and hope he cleans up a bit this time around. I feel that the swamps gotta go and then real fight between left and right will ideally shape what's to come more along the lines of what people want in general.
You’d vote for the man that cheated on all of his wives multiple times, was found guilty of assaulting women, has been accused by many of assault, told his supporters to storm the capital and then never supported the ones that got caught, says when he won the election was clean and then when he lost the election was stolen and is now running again even though the election can be stolen?
Really? You hate abortion and woke people so much, that you think trump is fit to president?
This man keeps saying the last election was a big scam, despite evidence so strong Fox News paid a billion dollar fine. I can’t understand why you white guys hate the left so much - abortion rights and gun control and gay rights are so objectionable to you that you actually want trump? I just don’t get it. Your lives are so bad you want to elect a man who tried to commit treason but was so dumb the effort was embarrassingly executed? You want someone like trump to know our nuclear codes? How much hate resides in your heart agains the left?
I don't get why you're so angry, if you disagree and stand by what you said, just vote the other way.
edit: I'm not white. But regardless, stop being racist against white folks. And yes racism goes both ways.
I get some of the things you've mentioned makes Trump's candidacy questionable. But issues on border control, second amendment, pro life, not support BLM/antifa swings real hard towards either Trump or DeSantis.
His views (same as DeSantis) on Gay or LGBTA or whatever is relatively liberal, do what you want just don't indoctrinate kids who cannot consent.
The Jan 6 accounts are so conflicting in the media but I lean towards Trump being witch hunted like he was for Russia hoax.
Cheating on wives? w/e refer to Bill & Hilary Clinton, left / liberals gave them a pass over decades. And it's personal problem let the courts handle however they should be handled.
E Jean Carroll is a joke.
The dominion system being used for Election owned by Pelosi's husband - still super questionable - Kari Lake is taking this up in Arizona no?
Like I said, swamp is the biggest issue in US politics, in my view (both Rep and Dem). The life long politicians need to go and Trump is the only one in the ballot who's been for cleaning the swamp.
It’s sad that these are seemingly the best candidates the parties can produce
As long as Trump keeps running, he will keep getting nominated, and the R’s will continue to lose.
DeSantis is a clown
I like him for Governor but not for President, and definitely not vs Trump. He just doesn't have the charisma and comes across a lot more forced/robotic. He's going to get absolutely bodied in the primary debates, if you disagree you should really go back and watch Trump during the 2016 primaries again. Best ticket IMO going into the general would be Trump + Tim Scott for VP. Trump will obliterate Biden over the last few years and Tim Scott would decimate Kamala. An actual full-blooded African-American vs the Jamaican-Indian diversity hire cop (whose family owned slaves; lol @ California reparations talks) Biden's stuck himself with who somehow manages to have an even worse approval rating.
DeSantis is better off solidifying his reputation in Florida so he can endorse a successor then come back to it in 2030. Him kicking Disney in the nuts has garnered him a LOT of support from within the state and his 2022 landslide should make that obvious. No reason for him to split that support and potentially hurt his standing in-state for a race he realistically doesn't have a chance in based on the polls.
RIP "small government, pro-business, free market, conservatives" (who have been dead since at least 2016).
What a great leftist you are, really fighting for the working man. So what, you mean you don't support his supposed moves towards being an authoritarian, anti-business governor? I thought that's exactly what you wanted?
What does being pro-business have to do with supporting child sexualization and abuse? What sense does it make for the state government to continue supporting what was essentially the last standing company town in the US?
The free market has spoken, the market does not support Disney's actions and so empowered a politician who punished them for it. Look at how Disney's parks and content have been performing the last few years. Regular people, not just conservatives, don't want all this LGBTQIA+&@# crap being foisted on prepubescent kids from every angle. They are willing to be tolerant, but that doesn't mean they want to have to cheer along and celebrate it every time they turn on the tv. They want to sit their kids in front of a movie that's entertaining and has some core values they support, not some low-effort PSA by activists masquerading as content creators. The market also doesn't like it when you do a bunch of live action remakes of classic stories, randomly start race and gender-swapping characters in a fake bid to be woke while completely gutting the stories themselves, then turn around and try to cover up the racial diversity they're supposedly proud of when they go and sell to the Chinese.
Contrary to popular belief, most parents aren't complete idiots and actually do want to make decisions raising their kids vs just handing them over to the schools and tv shows to do it for them. Also, killing franchises like Indiana Jones, Star Wars, and Marvel doesn't ingratiate yourself to the average centrist normie either. People care about nostalgia and when you poison that well, you're just finished. Get bent.
Unless those decisions involve gender-affirming care, right? That's not a parent and doctor's decision to make - DeSantis gets to decide!
The rest of your post is right wing radical nonsense. I'm a parent of two young kids and have been to Disney plenty - nothing is "forced" on anyone. Yes, they've introduced a few gay characters in recent years - so what? Gay people exist whether you guys want to acknowledge it or not.
Not to mention, this "woke" stuff is about #10,000 on the list of most important issues in the country, and it's all the GOP talks about anymore. GOP primary voters will learn that in the general when Joe Biden talks about jobs and infrastructure while Trump re-litigates the 2020 election and Desantis rails on about Bud Light or whatever Republicans are trying to cancel that day :)
Child sterilization* - if you support it, why do you need to hide behind euphemisms? That on it's own is telling.
No, it is not the right of a parent or doctor to decide "hey lets cut off Timmy's wee or Sarah's breasts and permanently stunt their natural development with the same castration drugs we use on sex offenders" because they're being confused by the garbage their parents and companies like Disney are pushing on them. It's a deliberately tenuous topic that's only come into the public zeitgeist over the last 10 years. Not even mentioning how they will permanently become dependent on purchasing more hormones and treatments from big pharma/the healthcare industrial complex because of all the problems they will have with things like bone health, organ development, potentially their brain/emotional maturation, etc. You can't mess with the fundamental building blocks of human's chronological development and not have massive cascading effects into the future, and there are 0 long-term studies that you can cite to argue otherwise.
If a child can't be expected to make decisions around drinking a beer or having sex, they for damn sure can't be expected to decide whether or not to sterilize themselves. If an adult and wants to transition, more power to them it's a free country and that's their decision. I'm not going to tell them they can't, I'm not going to advocate anyone stops them, and I'm certainly not going to support anyone who proposes they be punished for exercising their freedoms. But hey! Lefty! Leave them kids alone!
Yeah man, it's radical right wingers in the US who cause the stock of a multinational powerhouse to dump like this. Definitely has nothing to do with a company completely losing touch with their core audiences and suffering attrition across every line of business they have.
All the best to your kids. I sincerely hope they grow up to be happy and healthy with families of their own, and that you get to be a proud grandfather. I pray that neither of them gets confused about their gender and has you give them that oh so well thought out and researched "gender affirming care" so you can fit in with the rest of your progressive friends who treat children like social accessories. Only to wake up when they're in their mid/late-20s and realize they want to start a family of their own but can't, because dad needed to show how open-minded he was. I hope you never have to deal with the emotional blowback and guilt that would result from such a nightmarish situation. I say this as someone with a former friend who has already had to learn that lesson the hard way and has thought about deleting themselves over it. It's a scenario I would not wish on anyone.
gender affirming care.. lol in the meanwhile you have dude in women sports wrecking all time records, boys in girls washroom, fed puberty blockers and mutilated before age of consent because of stupid parents and end up regretting.
food for thought, let say you the benevolent/smart parent let your confused kid go through all that's necessary for sex change before age of consent and then later down in life the child regrets the decision. who'd be accountable? the child? the parent? or the doctor? and what would be the civil or criminal repercussion should the child (now adult) decided to take legal action?
giving time until someone has formed a higher level of decision making capabilities to proceed with something that is irreversible is sensible thing to do rather than believing everything your child (who's still learning about everything the world has to offer) says and going through with the irreversible decision.
Far from the "last company town" there are more than 1,800 special tax districts in Florida alone, and Disney was the only one who was attacked for having the gall to speak out against the sitting governor.
https://www.tampabay.com/news/florida-politics/2022/05/24/florida-speci….
Trump should pick a Hispanic VP, that base is massively shifting towards him. Playing into that I think would push that vote further towards him -- Hispanics are also the biggest minority in the US
100% agree with that analysis but I just don't personally know any good Hispanic candidates at the national level, open to researching suggestions if you've got any. Certainly not someone like Marco Rubio. Plus, I personally just want to see Tim bring up in a VP debate w/ Kamala about how her family owned slaves and watch her head explode as she tries to explain how her father is a liar and it has no relevance when juxtaposed with the reparation policies being pushed back in her own state.
This thread be like
Political threads in general be like
Just wait until AA is cancelled next month
Is that actually on the docket? I had no idea. That's great news!
I am not a fan.
Desantis has lower MBB satellite office MD energy.
This is the first political thread on wso that isn't just a bunch of name calling!
0 chance anyone beats Trump in the Primary
0 chance Trump can beat Biden.
--- From a Trump Voter
I deplore Donald Trump and the MAGA crowd. One thing they have in common with the trans rights movement is that they lie about everything. I support DeSantis in 2024. I'll never vote for Trump again, not in the primary or in the general election. Fortunately, I live in a deep blue state so I don't need to show up and vote in November 2024 for potentially Trump on the ballot.
One thing I really hate about MAGA is how they're ostensibly "far-right" yet as someone who is very much on the hard right they have very little in common with me. MAGA is not interested in the culture wars, MAGA's leaders are generally atheist or non-Christian, MAGA is indifferent to deficit spending or to the coming collapse of Social Security and Medicare, MAGA is opposed to free trade and puts forth deranged ideas like "let's bring low wage manufacturing jobs back to America." Donald Trump and MAGA were on the bleeding edge of the transgender movement, embracing Bruce Jenner who is the person most responsible for the rise of this twisted ideology's emergence in popular culture. MAGA says stuff like "we should execute drug dealers" or "we should stop illegal immigration" yet when they win elections none of this policy is ever seriously pursued. Ultimately, MAGA is all about Trump. Nothing more, nothing less.
I feel this is picking out every point out of context.
- culture war (identity politic) is visibly divisive and objective appears to divide the country into smaller groups and to pit each group against each other. what good is there to this? and even if you find some logical rationale to pursue such an endeavor, how do you exactly intent on coming out victorious in the culture war against the left?
- I've seen plenty Catholics and Christians and even Jewish folks on MAGA train... but regardless why religion relevant?
- I don't think MAGA people are indifferent to deficit spending - Trump piled onto deficit during his time but were spending in right areas. Border security namely. I don't stand for or speak on behalf of MAGA folks but Social Security / Medicare and other forms of social safety net are the reason deficits are so high and growing, and is the prime reason to blame on why US is socially worse now than it was 40-50 years ago.
- MAGA also doesn't oppose free trade - you should probably watch youtube video on debate between Ben Shapiro and Stephen Harper. The trade tariff imposed on China by Trump is what you're referring to, I presume. China has pegged their currency to USD and reaped the benefits of the trades for over decades. Their hyper growth since the 90s, 00s, 10s have been funded and subsidized by the trade relationship with US where US allows all sorts of imports from China but China does not (protecting their domestic companies from competitions in their turf while freely competing in the world markets). Again, I don't represent the MAGA community but I believed Trump's stance on trade versus China was the right direction. Maybe not correct method but the imbalance in trade agreements (not just China) needs to stop and his actions were to ameliorate this situation.
- Bruce Jenner isn't responsible for what you claim. Maybe he/she had a small part in it but how can you blame one person for such a drastic shift in cultural dynamics. It's more to do with woke people going on to become parents and not fulfilling their responsibilities as parents. Generations have become softer and softer each generation and is probably the biggest reason this transgender movement is taking place.
- I believe, unless a party wins all three levels (Executive, Senate, House), Republic is designed to make it difficult to execute legislative changes. Which I think is impeccable foresight on the part of those who wrote the constitution. Like, as much as you think some laws need to be passed, you might be the incorrect person and going forward with an idea might end up doing more harm than good. So an idea need a lot of time and discussion. And consensus made after giving an idea a lot of time and discussions should be passed. Also, on this end I believe the career politicians (Swamp: Nancy Pelosi, Chuck Schumer, Mitch McConnell, Joe Biden, and other RINOs) need to go. They are the reason for so much bureaucracy and they do not have American's best interest at heart.
- Like how Hilary Clinton's branding of MAGA crowd as deplorables, you really shouldn't be so arrogant to brand such a large populace inferior. It's a very simple and narrow minded thinking that will eventually push your thoughts to extremes.
Setting aside your entire response for a moment, your penultimate point with respect to MAGA's total inability to achieve any kind of legislative victories was basically, "meh, in a republic, you can't do much legislatively anyway, and that's a good thing." That perfectly sums up my chief point about MAGA--it's not about public policy or pursuing a conservative agenda; it's all about a cult-like addiction to Donald Trump, the individual. You don't actually care about public policy, by your own words.
Right, this is exactly what every Republican leader has said for much of the last 60 years, and now we're debating about whether some women have penises. MAGA calls people like me "RINOs" yet the reality is, MAGA has completely embraced surrender on the cultural war front like every other Rockefeller Republican before us. Budweiser promotes the sick, twisted, demonic transgender ideology and Trump's response is, "Hey, that giant corporation gives the Republicans money; best go easy on 'em." What a pathetic, depraved response by Trump. Kari Lake, a far left liberal Democrat until 2018, is one of Trump's chief surrogates. She calls for conservatives to surrender the culture to the Left until we fix the border and stop the war in Ukraine. Absolutely pathetic. You can surrender, but the rest of us are going to fight on, and we're not going to do it with MAGA.
Right, there are plenty of Christians who have been deceived. This is perfectly Biblical. The Bible says that even some of the elect will be deceived by the Devil in the end times. Christians are humans. They can be deceived. Many have been deceived. Those of us who haven't been deceived back DeSantis.
This is probably the dumbest of your points. This makes no sense whatsoever. Trump engages in record deficit spending and your response is MAGA isn't indifferent to it because...
Trump has been attacking DeSantis on the Left flank, saying DeSantis wanted to reform Social Security and Medicare 10 years ago to avoid its complete collapse. Trump and MAGA openly say they want to kick the can down the road as far as possible so that Trump doesn't have to deal with it politically. That may make Trump a good politician, but it makes him a bad leader.
This is probably your least stupid response. But, yes, MAGA is openly hostile to free trade, if you listen to MAGA's chief mouthpieces, such as Charlie Kirk. Trump himself was too impotent of a President to actually achieve tangible trade goals other than killing the trade deal with Asia that was in the works, which was moronic. So, Trump's impotence saved him on this piece of stupid MAGA policy.
Bruce Jenner is absolutely the person most responsible for popularizing transgenderism in the culture. I understand people in this culture have the memories of gnats, but before 2015, transgenderism was an international joke. Bruce Jenner brought it into the mainstream, won and accepted a Woman of the Year award, and fully embraced Donald Trump, who fully embraced him. And it didn't stop there. Trump played kingmaker for Dr. Oz in the 2022 Pennsylvania GOP primary. Dr. Oz was promoting transgenderism for children on TV as early as 2009 or 2010. Trump has embraced two of the most effective advocates of transgenderism in the entire world, and he has sent his surrogates out there telling conservatives to surrender or stand down until MAGA can get elected and achieve other policy goals first.
A broken clock is right twice a day. She didn't call all Trump supporters "deplorable". She said "half" are deplorable. And she was right for the wrong reasons. Half of Trump supporters are run of the mill, normal people. The other half are locked into a cult of personality and Trump is leading them down the road of perdition. The Trump religious cult people are MAGA--and those people lie about everything. They lie like they breathe. They lie, lie, lie. About everything. And they have no principles. Just like the progressive Left, MAGA is without principle and lies about everything. Yes, they are deplorable. And so is Hillary Clinton, a progressive leftist who lies about everything.
Not going to make any commentary about my personal politics. That said,
I don't believe DeSantis can beat Trump in a primary, and like others said, I don't think Trump can beat Biden. Even if DeSantis won the primary, Trump would likely sink him by running 3rd party. Sure, that's illegal in some states, but as long as one or two swing states allow him on the ballot, that would likely be enough to ensure his loss. Trump simply out charismas DeSantis and will eat him alive in a debate.
In the long term, I'm curious to how the GOP will address younger voters. It seems Gen Z is very liberal, and Millennials are not becoming more conservative as they age, with some sources even indicating the opposite is true. There are many issues that younger voters seem to use as purity tests for candidates, and they would not vote for anybody who does not support full LGBT rights and abortion rights. Others issues like student loan forgiveness would probably be more malleable, but even then probably not as much as the GOP needs. DeSantis is treading a thin line in trying to appease both MAGA and establishment Republicans. For example, he signed the 6 week abortion ban but announced it will little fanfare to not draw any unwanted attention. For MAGA Republicans, abortion is a hard line, but Establishment Republicans seem willing to toss it in favor of economic conservatism.
DeSantis also likes to tout his landslide victory in 2022, but his opponent was terrible and was also a former Republican Governor of Florida, not something that really galvanizes the opposition. That said, I don't think anyone could beat DeSantis if a new gubernatorial election were held today. DeSantis would make a far more viable candidate in 2028, assuming Trump isn't in the picture. On the Democratic side, Gavin Newsom seems to be gearing up for a 2028 run, and I would say there's a good chance he's the Democratic nominee. While Newsom was at one point a very progressive Democrat (he was the first person to legalize gay marriage), he may not galvanize the Democratic base in the same way today. I think DeSantis would probably beat Biden if he took more moderate stances on things like abortion, dropped his anti-woke campaign, and just focused on economic issues.
I do think the demographic shift is something both parties, but especially the GOP, will have to address in the coming years. I do not believe the GOP is doing nearly enough to win over younger voters, who largely are not becoming more conservative. DeSantis himself even referenced this so called "culture of losing" his party has, and there does not seem to have been any change between the midterms and now.
There are certainly some "woke" policies which are incredibly unpopular nationwide like Affirmative Action, which was struck down by voters in CALIFORNIA in 2020, but others like the treatment of transgender individuals are a lot less clear. And some like legal abortion are incredibly popular. Last year, Pew found 61% of Americans support its legalization in most cases.
Consider the fact that the last time a non-incumbent Republican, such as Ron DeSantis, won the popular vote was George Bush in 1988. In fact, in the lifetime of all Gen Z (~1996/7-now), a Republican has only won the popular vote in 2004. Democrats won it in 1996, 2000, 2008, 2012, 2016, and 2020. Obviously you don't need the popular vote to win, but there is a clear trend, and the whole 'winning the EC but losing the popular vote' will only go on for so long before this shift makes such a feat far nearly impossible. The GOP needs to address this, and I don't think they are.
I don't know how this will play out long term.
Your analysis is completely reversed, and I simply cannot understand how you could say some of the things you're saying. You're tying cultural conservatism to MAGA, which is absurd on its face. MAGA is culturally liberal. The anti-woke work is all being done by DeSantis and his supporters in conservative media, such as Matt Walsh. Trump is not against abortion in a meaningful way, he's embraced trans activism, and supports Disney and Anhueser-Busch, and Trump is pro-gay and he's not a Christian. So, it's incredibly bizarre of you to tie cultural conservatism to MAGA. There isn't MAGA vs establishment struggle. There is MAGA vs establishment vs conservative vs libertarian struggle within the GOP.
You’re missing forest for the trees. Pragmatically, how do you think this demographic shift is going to play out. I’m not asking how you want it to, but what do you actually think is going to happen?
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