How are there people who think BX shooter was justified?
Saw a post on IG about the Blackstone shooting and someone in the comments (who I have irl mutuals with) commented something along the lines of "She died but she works at blackstone which is evil, so she kind of had it coming" and in a reply to another post hoping that more people followed in the steps of luigi mangione.
several of the replies all agreed with him. wtf?? like there's genuinely a group of people who wish death/harm on people who work in a particular industry?
I was going to say maybe these people were lower income and thought that their lives were negatively impacted by "wall st", but I looked up the guy who commented, who had his firstlast as his username, and he's a software engineer at google ?? prob makes more than me
would be funny if u scared that guy and threatened to screenshot his message and send to his employer lol.
It had nothing to do with Blackstone aside from the building it happened in, according to Adams the guy had CTE and was targeting NFL HQ but took the wrong elevator. As far as why people think he's justified, look at all the love and support Luigi Mangione got after the UnitedHealthcare CEO incident. No matter how terrible an act someone commits, if viewed as a move against the "evil corporate overlords" there's going to be a loud, not insignificantly-sized collection of people who praise it.
It's fucked up, but that's the culture that's been allowed to propagate. People wallowing in their ignorance and mediocrity will cheer whenever they see someone else strike those that are seen as "winners". New York is a particularly target-rich environment for this and is filled with a large number (if not a majority) of people who ideologically agree with these types of actions and elevate them to "revolutionary blows to power" status regardless of whatever the expressed motives of the culprit actually are.
I'm not buying this. The guy was visibly armed, got into a building with security, went to the wrong floor, and then accidentally killed the CEO of BREIT? Ok.
This happened in the lobby when he indiscriminately sprayed bullets at people hiding behind pillars and desks so yes
Maybe do some reading before commenting…
Agreed that glorifying such acts is terrible, but the tone of your comment is giving Marie Antoinette levels of delusion. Instead of asking why the majority have automatic sympathy with such acts in good faith, you essentially reduce it to 'mediocre losers who hate the successful due to their own inadequacies'. That disconnect between the majority and the small world of high finance/ corporate is growing for good reason, and while we are all particularly aggrieved in the industry at an innocent life taken away, it's also worth reflecting on that instead of treating the majority with disdain.
I’m honestly kind of shaken by this shooting. I know Blackstone wasn’t the target but it really reinforces that this can happen to any of us at anytime.
Also, the shooter played high school football. It’s not like he was some NFL or UFC dude taking shots to the head for a decade plus. He’s sub-human trash and deserves to burn in hell for the rest of time.
Over a million people play HS football every year, to say nothing of other contact sports (lacrosse, hockey, wrestling, soccer - goalies take it in the head plenty, trust me on this). How many of them do things like this? Did some research the other day: CTE is neurodegenerative. It causes memory problems, emotional dysfunction, and sometimes suicidal thoughts. Methodical planning of a mass shooting, leaving a manifesto/suicide note that externalizes blame in a persecutorial and grandiose way - sounds more like a manic episode of some kind. Bi-polar, schizophrenia, who knows.
I’ve seen those comments too and I think people are just frustrated and riled up. It’s the only explanation in my mind for why someone would say something so abjectly evil. If it’s someone you care about, in person, just ask basic questions about the implications of the “Luigi” position and they’ll realize how much of a POS they are. If they don’t you probably shouldn’t associate with them.
Any utilitarian should easily be able to rationalize the luigi killing... if killing in self defense is OK, it is certainly fine to kill the UHC ceo due to the aggregate pain/death he presided over. In fact, it may be morally imperative if it leads to a more equitable healthcare system.
Your line of thinking is exactly why utilitarianism is often used by despots to justify horrific collective violence.
That’s not even true. A utilitarian could look at the efficient distribution of healthcare resources that is the calculation behind claim approval and the corresponding societal value reflected in the compensation of healthcare industry professionals (care providers, researchers, and business).
Not any utilitarian. No Rule Utilitarian would agree in any manner. And killing someone like this presupposes that killing him would end the practices at UHC. Fun fact: UHC is still doing the same thing they have been and will continue no matter who the CEO is. So a lot of Act Utilitarians would disagree with you on those grounds.
So, it should be fine to kill you as well. After all you support horrific moral ideas.
It’s genuinely all jealously. I was privileged enough to talk to her a couple of times - great woman, gave me great advice when I was trying to get into finance from an impoverished background.
Ironically, she has probably done more for the working class in terms of aiding social mobility than these matcha addicted twitter knobheads.
Disgusting.
May she rest in peace
This.
May her memory be a blessing.
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Back in the day, the wealthy were highly visible, social unrest was more common, and labor was more necessary in the industrial era. Now, wealthy are more sequestered/unnoticeable, better protected, and are more easily able to put down worker revolts. Thus, it does not make sense to compare Nathan Rothschild or Carnegie to any ultra wealthy person today... they don't create public works or do great deeds of charity because they don't need to placate the masses while stripping them of wealth.
The wealthy back then weren’t just philanthropic to “placate the masses.” Like most successful people, particularly those who reached the heights the executive in question did, they felt morally obligated to give something back to uplift society and promote the civic welfare. Carnegie wrote an entire essay on it, Rockefeller I believe was extremely religious.
"Many people in the developing world respect capitalism, as they benefit from its positive aspects-the low income people of Nigeria now have iPhones and skipped landline telephones, etc"
Jesus Christ how out of touch can you be? I'm sure everybody in Africa is very happy Capitalism came to them, exploited them for hundreds of years, destabilized their countries, assasinated their leaders, and swooped in to get those sweet mineral rights at the end of it all. At least they have Iphones though, it only cost them their sovereignty.
And I know its hard for you to stomach, but it is working class people that actively hate the "elite" for continuing to squeeze them, including the decreasing opportunities to ever own property. The rich of today are nothing like those of prior eras, their art is blackmailed portraits stored on Little St. James Island, and its the current administration cutting funding for public services and recreation for the average person.
I bet those "blue haired liberals" are pretty annoying, but you're both part of the NYC bubble.
People are idiots, and unsuccessful people are bitter idiots.
Welcome to loser liberal brain rot.
Retards exist. That is how. There isn't some massive conspiracy here. These retards tend to congregate in big cities that have very liberal political tendencies.
Riiiiight. Because urban areas are notoriously worse educated and less intelligent than everywhere else.
More to the point, the guy was looking for the NFL offices, apparently because he also suffered pretty bad CTE and blamed the league for his condition. Not sure what that has to do with being retarded, rather than physically injured.
But you're right that people tend to congregate in big cities with very liberal political tendencies. You should be glad - all those welfare queen Republicans can only afford to eat and live because of the tax revenues those big cities send to red states. Not only do we pay their way, we get all the shit, too. Pretty good deal for conservatives! Their crazy nutjobs go shoot up liberal cities, and in return, they get lots of welfare checks.
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