If you could give your 18 year old self 3 pieces of advice what would it be?

Could be health related/ lifestyle/ relationship/ fashion/ monetary/ career advice.

Or it could be to do with pitfalls/ mistakes/ things to avoid in early adulthood...or even what flavour of milk goldman analysts like.

Loads of High IQ chads on here...lets hear it

What would u say to this future master of the Universe?

3 pieces of advice

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I would tell myself to stop worrying about looking young. Eventually it will be a great characteristic and  it will give you lots of confidence.  I would also tell myself not to feel bad about not knowing anything about your religion.  You will eventually learn all about it as an adult. I would also tell myself to watch what you eat because even youngish people can get high cholesterol. 

 

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  I would also tell myself not to feel bad about not knowing anything about your religion.  You will eventually learn all about it as an adult.

Pretty bad advice here. It's really simple. If you don't know about something, go read up on it. Go watch some Youtube videos. You don't have to be a rabbi. It's easier than ever to get good information on your religion and opposing views. 

Some great advice that I've heard is that you should try to figure things out as early as you can in life. Figuring out what life is all about 20 big decisions deep is not great. 

It's wonderful if someone understands the wealth of their religion at 50 years old, but I can tell you that same person will also look back at their last 50 years with regret when they re-evaluate their previous decisions from a new light.

 

Don’t wait passively for anything good to come to you, take your shot.

Combine a field of study/work you enjoy and obtain technical skills that make you credentialed.

If you find someone who could be your life partner in college, hold on to them and build a life together (forget about chasing other mates for the sake of).  You’ll be better able to navigate the downturns/setbacks in your life and career with your shared life history; and you will have someone to celebrate the ups and know how far you’ve come.

Have compassion as well as ambition and you’ll go far in life. I am interested in digital immortality. Check out my blog at digitalimmortality.com
 

Yeah interesting advice but context dependent on the last one. I think in many ways those who find their life partners in college are lucky, but for many guys they just need to sow their oats a bit before they feel they are 'ready'

That said, you also don't want to e the 35 year old single man (no matter how financially successful) since that will just a sad life for 95% of people who get there (maybe 5% are still happy with that lifestyle)

It is amazing though how much having a good wife does for your resiliency at life / career / etc. Just puts things in perspecitve, even if your career has bumps you'll still have her to go back to. And ofc same thing applies when you have kids 

 

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It is amazing though how much having a good wife does for your resiliency at life / career / etc. Just puts things in perspecitve, even if your career has bumps you'll still have her to go back to. And ofc same thing applies when you have kids 

I think this actually speaks to a broader issue, which is that it is hard to distinguish between your career and your life when you're young.  So much of our lives as kids are goal-oriented.  Get good grades to get into an AP class, so you can get into a good college, so you can get a good job.  Be in the top bucket for bonuses so you have the best exit opps.  All of this is forward looking, and treats whatever you're doing as a step on a ladder.

In the moment, it is really tough to recognize that having hobbies or interests or even friends who don't revolve around the narrow world of finance (for WSO) is healthy and normal and frankly will be helpful in the long run.  Being a sweaty finance bro stops being acceptable once you aren't meant to grind out 100 hours weeks.

Having a wife and especially kids forcibly contextualizes all that.  Suddenly it's someone else you have to compromise around (wife) or straight up defer to (kids' needs).  And once you're doing it for one facet of your life, I feel like the dam breaks everywhere else, too.

 

Take the chances. You will fail sometimes, and that's ok. It's nerve-racking, but go ask that girl out / join that wacky club (rock climbing or something) / travel a bunch / try different internships in different industries / do more public speaking. It all comes down to caring what other people think of you, so really go out and embrace rejection as a means to build resiliency & self confidence. What helps is working out / being social / playing sports (intramural is fine) / etc

 
  • save more - you won't remember all of the nights you balled out, your credit card company will. you get the same social benefits from one quality night out every 2-3 weeks as you do 3 nights a week every week. I would've rather travelled more than bought fireball shots for my friends that I couldn't afford. so cook more, buy less clothes, and go out less. live like a pauper
  • study abroad - you're already going to have student loans because of your parents, take out an extra 5-10k and have some fun
  • change your major immediately - math, Econ, physics, etc. (keep the Spanish minor, you'll meet your wife there!), you can handle it and your major is a waste of time
 
  1. The right partner is worth 10x more than the right job. When you find the right partner, do everything in your power to make it work. Only one of the two do you assume you will stay with in perpetuity
  2. Trust yourself. No one knows what is best for you better. No one else has all the information, and has the same experience. If you think you know what is best or what you're capable of, believe in yourself and go for it.
  3. ANYTHING can be overcome, with the right attitude. You think a bad grade, a firing, even a criminal record can hold you back from your goals and dreams? It only does so if you let it. Successful people acknowledge setbacks, and reframe the situation to find alternative paths forwards. Losers mope about coming up short or unfortunate situations, and let it define themselves. If I listed out all the things I overcame to get to where I am today, no one would believe me. 
 
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"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

Instead of just “drink more caffeine,” you might like trycaffio - it’s a smart bottle + app that micro-doses your caffeine through the day instead of dumping 200–300mg at once.

 

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Why?

I rarely drink any caffeine

When I was 18 I went through a sleep deprivation training program and thought I could hack it without caffeine but was wrong.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 
  1. Stop trying to be someone else. You already know who you are and who you aren't.
  2. Travel more. Weighing a college girlfriend or part time job over a semester abroad is dumb. Life will be there for you when you get back.
  3. Not everything has to be optimized. Majors, universities, grades, diet, whatever. Focus more on what makes you happy versus trying to min-max life into misery. 
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How do you stop the min max misery? I feel like there’s always another hill to climb and so on. Especially at an elite school I feel like I’m constantly comparing myself to my friends and people and forcing myself into even more work because I feel like I could do better

 

You think to yourself “Will I care about this on my death bed?” or “If I got a stage 4 cancer diagnosis tomorrow, is this something I would still do?” 

And some of it you will. There’s nothing wrong with enjoying work or various things we have to do. But there’s also a whole lot of bullshit that no one would choose to spend time on if they had limited time left. 

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  1. Take that ridiculous risk you keep talking about; the failure costs less now than later.
  2. Don't worry so much about your first job title; focus on the skills you actually use daily.
  3. People will only value you as much as you value yourself, learn to ask for what you truly deserve.
 
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Do the boring stuff daily: the basis of all habits and growth is rooted in consistency. Showing up for every single habit or workout and building discipline that exceeds motivation or emotions is crucial to build any foundation. This goes beyond simply studying or even working out, but something as small as your dental hygiene routine or taking cold showers, stretching to avoid lower back pain, and other small gestures that compound over time. 

Don't wait for the world: there is no structured email that will tell you what to do with your personal life or professional life as had been the case in grade school. Waiting to be handed instructions or a signal instead of seeking out insights is an easy way to grow complacent. 

This too shall pass: Life will be filled with struggles with some expected, but many unexpected. If you have a negative emotional response to each and every discomfort or discontent situation, you'll find yourself going in circles. Accepting the imperfection and complexity of life and finding a way through it is the greatest challenge of adolescence.   

 

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Do the boring stuff daily: the basis of all habits and growth is rooted in consistency. Showing up for every single habit or workout and building discipline that exceeds motivation or emotions is crucial to build any foundation. This goes beyond simply studying or even working out, but something as small as your dental hygiene routine or taking cold showers, stretching to avoid lower back pain, and other small gestures that compound over time. 

Don't wait for the world: there is no structured email that will tell you what to do with your personal life or professional life as had been the case in grade school. Waiting to be handed instructions or a signal instead of seeking out insights is an easy way to grow complacent. 

This too shall pass: Life will be filled with struggles with some expected, but many unexpected. If you have a negative emotional response to each and every discomfort or discontent situation, you'll find yourself going in circles. Accepting the imperfection and complexity of life and finding a way through it is the greatest challenge of adolescence.   

It's funny a positive response to life in the brain leads to the brain re-wiring itself to expect positive results in the future (neuroplasticity). A negative view on life typically leads to negative outcomes. 

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

Go all in on the things that actually matter to the proverbial you - may take some time to figure out what is truly important and what is noise (i'm in my mid-late 20's and still figuring it out) but life gets dramatically more clear once you do. as an example mine are:

-relationships (family / friends)

-career

-health (myself, see relationships above)

 

Saw this thread bumped and wanted to spend some more time on a more thoughtful answer.  

I just want to share just one piece of advice because I hope sharing only one it underscores its importance. 

#1: Continue to work and grind like you know it will all work out in the end

At 18 years old, I came to the harsh realization that I was either mediocre or bad at everything I did. Bad with girls. Bad at sports. Bad in school. There wasn't a single area of my life where I consistently outperformed the majority of my peers. 

So I decided to change that. It didn't happen overnight. Quite the opposite actually. Slowly, painfully slowly, I started to put the pieces together. Most of the time I didnt think I was making any progress. Most of the time I felt like a failure, and wanted to give up. Sometimes I did give up, but not for long. The progress came so slowly and it seemed so insignificant that most of the time I didn't even think I was progressing. 

When I say that I worked on every single aspect of my life, I truly mean it. I began working out regularly. I started to repair relationships. I started studying like my life depended on straight As. I grinded in the library for 12+ hours regularly. 

At various points throughout my self improvement journey life, I failed at what felt like just about everything. I am not going to speak to each aspect of this, but I will touch on my academic and career oriented path, as they seem most relevant. I failed so many times I lost count. Failed classes. Failed final round interviews. Failed at locking in return offers. Even after landing good offers I had multiple times where I was underperforming. Where I worried about being on the chopping block.  

There was no linear progression. It was a long and bumpy journey. It was probably comparable to being manic. The highs were so high, and the lows were so low. 

But I just kept going. I kept pivoting. I kept trying. In hindsight, calling these failures was too harsh. Yes I didn't succeed, but I learned from each of them. I improved. I recalibrated. The whole time I kept pushing not because I really believed in myself, but because I was too stubborn to throw in the towel. I simply didn't know what to do other than to keep trying. 

I wish I could go back and tell my 18 year old self, "Hey man, it really all does work out in the end. In fact, you land roles and opportunities your brain cant even fathom at this age. It isnt because you're the smartest, or because you have the best work ethic, or because you're the most likeable, but it is because you just kept pushing and trying to get better."

If you aren't where you want to be, put your head down and don't pick it up until you're starting to see how bright the world is around you. 

>10 years later, I still cannot believe the life I have built. I have more than I could have hoped for, sometimes it doesn't feel real. 

 

Glad to hear it man.  

You know, as a student, I would sit in the back at my not so impressive uni reading all the WSO success stories over and over, hoping on day to be half as successful as those guys and girls. One day I will write my own now. It really is doable if you refuse to quit. That is the key to life. Figure out what you are really motivated about, develop discipline and refuse to give up. At least that is what has worked out for me. 

 
  1. Doing well academically at school / exams doesn't translate to general or industrial smartness
  2. What you study doesn't define your career path, try and read and learn about as many things beyond your field that you are interested in
  3. take that girl out. you're not gonna 'save money' by being stingy 
 
  1. Treating your body like a human garbage disposal doesn’t last forever. Make better health decisions earlier in life.
  2. The majority of friends you make in life will not be there for the long-term. Don’t make stupid decisions because your current group of friends are degenerates. For a kid who grew up in an upper middle income/rich suburb, I have far too many friends who ended up dead, in prison, or addicted to hard drugs.
  3. Try to figure out who the important people in your life will be long-term and do everything you can to spend time with them. Whether it’s family, friends, romantic partners, etc. It’s a trial and error process but I’ve wasted far too much time and energy on people I don’t even want to remember.
 
  1. Don't get in a serious relationship - especially if you're not financially stable. Don't worry about these hoes so much, and definitely don't move in with a woman.
  2. Get off the streets. You're spending too much time around the wrong people and a lot of them aren't gonna live to see 30. Stop partying so much. And don't take high school drama so seriously. You won't remember any of these people in a few years.
  3. Focus more. Don't split your focus on trying to do too much at once. Focus on your money, education, and health. All you have now are your brains, time, and energy so use it better.
 

On the point about partying too much I think a big distinction can be made on when you start partying. I started partying when I was 13 and 95% of the people I partied with at that age ended up with horrific life outcomes. The kids who waited until later in high school or college to start partying seemed to turn out ok for the most part. They might not be WSO’s definition of success but they are living productive lives and making a decent living. 

I’m not really sure how everyone else’s life got fucked up from that friend group and I ended up a WSO example of success. I think part of it is because by the time I was 18 I saw enough things go horribly wrong for friends of mine that I realized that was not a good direction to go in.

 

I jumped off the porch at around 11, and most of the kids I was around probably had similar outcomes as your friends. No kid should be in the streets like that at that age. If we are it's because we're being neglected, and if we're being neglected then something isn't right at home and horrific things are going to happen. We're still kids in high school and college, but we're a little more mature. To be partying at 11-13 like that is extreme so the life trajectory is going to be a bit more extreme. 

Like you, sometimes I wonder how I survived, but I also remember thinking at times that my friends were crazy (not in a good way). There's levels out here, and I wasn't playing at that level. I had my limits, and they would make fun of me sometimes for being soft. I wasn't a pussy, but like I said, they were crazy and on another level. Seeing what happened to some of my friends really hurt my heart. We were all just stupid kids trying to get through life without much guidance.

I think decisions compound. Sometimes staying home one night and not meeting the wrong person at a party can have some type of butterfly effect. Other times I felt like I had some type of guardian angel because I made it out of things I can't logically explain. I don't know how I ended up on WSO either.

 

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