Lack of talent in IB!
So for some perspective, I’m a senior and recently did a summer internship at Goldman after which I received a FT return offer. To my disappointment though, my intake and all the male analysts i came across were virtually all secret gooner/python pussy/matlab monkey types and there was a serious lack of hotties to gawk at. I think I went through the entire 3 months without wanting to touch any of the pootinanny. Or even having a loose night out with any of my male colleagues in the intake. They are allergic to having fun. I thought IB interviews were so supposed to screen out dorky dweebs who wouldn’t get on easily with clients. Seems like that’s all bullshit along with the perceived notion of requiring strong interpersonal skills and affability to pass the behaviourals.
In terms of the girls, I barely spotted one girl under 30 that was a 7 or above. All of the hotter ones seemed to be above 30 and married. I also got a strong impression that the girls between the ages of 21-25 were just a bunch of raging feminist, Lyndsay Clancy sympathiser types, particularly the girls of colour who were absolutely no fun at all. And the white girls were all irritating, lgbt zombie, try hards who laughed way too hard at jokes that weren’t funny.
So - my question is where do all the non-politicised hotties and normal dudes work at? Not a chance in hell I’m going back enduring 2 more years of that nonsense. Id rather recruit off cycle and hang with normal people who I can suck on a mug of beer with, than 2 more years with those neeks. Any suggestions? I’m assuming one of the MM IB’s is a better bet? Don’t care about any perceived drop in prestige at this point…
Thanks in advance gents.
what on earth did I just read
WF is paradise!
Thx! I’ve heard some good things about it too.
Gotta go south to “Y’all Street” brother
Aw hell nah
Know people at GS and this feels like a larp
Non diversity SA at GS is almost entirely athletes and strong nepo
Yeah rowing “athletes” lol, the biggest nerds of them all. They’ve never slept in past 7am in their entire lives lol.
Don’t dip your pen in the company ink
I dipped something else in it
You guys wanted meritocracy and then turn around and complain that the industry is full of dorks. Pick one.
OP is a larp why are you engaging with it
I mean, this is obviously a comedic post, but no one wants meritocracy, and usually the people complaining about it and raging against DEI or whatever are the people who least want meritocracy.
What right wing losers want is a return to the system whereby straight, white, mainly Christian men are in a position of privilege and compete among themselves, not meritocracy at large.
Which is why you almost never hear someone who complains about how Wall Street is meant to be meritocratic also complain about how Wall Street is rotten with nepotism. Because the point is to get in and pull the ladder up and enshrine privilege for yourself and your children, not to actually have a system where talent wins out. "Meritocracy" means "whatever gives me the best chance at success"
Some people do legitimately want meritocracy, because it's a system like any other. Nepotism is a system, and connected people prefer that system. DEI is a system, and URMs including women prefer that system. Meritocracy is a system, and you prefer meritocracy if the nepotism/DEI systems don't favor you.
At shitty jobs. Too busy partying and fucking instead of studying.
This reminds me of something Peter Thiel said. The question was why are founders so often autistic, awkward types . . what is it about that kind of person that makes them a good founder? And he said there's no advantage to it; it's just that we push all the normal people in to basic jobs and nobody is left to start companies.
Is there any evidence Peter Thiel is right about that?
Also, not to get too combative about it, but that stereotype might be true for a very small, narrow world of "founders." Silicon Valley types are notorious for confusing their own tiny little bubble of reality for what most people want and experience. It is very possible that lots of tech founders are awkward, autistic types, and that's reflective of a very specific period in a very specific place in a very specific and narrow set of industries. There are people founding companies in all sorts of fields, though, and the people founding construction firms or clothing brands don't fit that stereotype.
It may be that Thiel said tech founders, and I lazily reduced it to founders. In any event the stereotype was never to my knowledge directed to a small business founder like a plumber who decided to hang his own shingle. It was meant for founders who create businesses that purport to be a whole new thing ("zero to one" as he says), which are going to be largely tech but not entirely.
And this is some silly, egotistical nonsense from the tech industry. Almost nothing in Silicon Valley is "a whole new thing." This is sort of my point about the anosognosia of the tech industry in general. Just totally incapable of holding themselves to the same standards they apply to everyone else.
If Peter Thiel isn't convincing himself that he's a special snowflake genius, then a lot of the posturing becomes far less defensible.
Definitely a lot of grandiose thinking in tech. It's self-parody at this point. Agree with you 100% there.
I feel differently about Thiel, as I think all the other crazies in the Valley are intentionally contrarian/provocative because they're trying to be like him. To oversimplify things, I see him as the real one and all the others as the posers and copycats. He's been very intentional from a young age about the need to think differently, recognizing that there's not much point thinking in mainstream terms because everyone else is doing that for you already.
Doesn't mean he won't overdo it, or that he won't gloss over details for the sake of a soundbite. I think he did the latter in the case of this austistic founders point. But within his overstatement is a less dramatic point that I think is a good one. Typical corporate brass ring type roles (IB, PE, MBB, other kinds of finance, maybe law etc etc) have become overvalued to a point where anyone well-rounded tends to get sucked into that path vs. starting a company.
I mean I agree with this sentiment in general, but I also notice that people who believe it tend to also start believing in their own hype and in the infallibility of their own opinions.
I don't know Peter Thiel, and I know comparatively little about him. But you don't have to be much more than a casual observer of prominent entrepreneurs and especially tech entrepreneurs to understand that they live in a bubble, in the sense that while they may have begun their careers by taking contrarian positions, once they've made it, they buy into their own beliefs in a manner no less unthinking than people who believe the mainstream narrative.
The value of a differentiated approach is that you've thought critically about the popular view, recognized where most people have gone wrong or made a poor assumption, and then you make an intelligent bet against that narrative. Once you start thinking that a countervailing opinion is right simply because it is different is when you run into trouble. How many tech barons do we see make this mistake, over and over, because they have such unthinking faith in their own judgement?
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p0rn is healthier than reading this
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