Love doesn’t exist

Nothing to do with finance but just want to see how many people agree or dispute this claim. Love is no longer real. Women no longer take an interest to good men. They’re only interested in racking up their body count, fuck with guys heads, and when they do try to settle, the guys aren’t interested. Men are not much better by engaging in hook up culture, but also seems like men have this sigma personality where they don’t need a woman in their life. Any relationships that do exist just get me thinking, one of them is cheating, or one of them is faking it till they make it. Nothing else. Listen, I hope I’m wrong because I’d love more than anything to find the woman of my dreams, but just basing it off experience and witness, love is a joke.

 
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Seems you're going thru some stuff, I'm sorry to hear it man. I'd phrase it in a less binary way -- love does still exist but it's increasingly harder to find. 15yrs ago you'd maybe find that 50% of women were pretty quality and had reasonable expectations. These days in the under 35 crowd gun to my head -- based on personal experience and the experience of friends -- it's maybe 20-30%.

Dating apps make switching costs infinitely lower while social media elevates expectations beyond belief, and a highly liberal agenda in the past 2 decades has supported the idea that racking up dozens of bodies as a woman as not only ok but actually good...none of these in isolation are good for the psyche in supporting a LT relationship, in combination it's almost untenable. I've seen some very good relationships for folks in late 20s to early 30s, but they increasingly tend to be the exception rather than the norm. 

Generally if you're trying to find a quality girl, you're chances are better off the apps. Maybe a friend's wedding, or a through a friend group, or through church / religion-related volunteer work (if you are religious), etc. I've gotten tired of the dating app game, when I'm with a girl I met off the apps I get a sense of 'here today, gone tomorrow'. I think the types of girls it attracts on average are lower quality vs. the general population of folks who don't use the apps. Just my two cents

 

The problem is social media has warped our sense of reality. Yes, there are women who prioritize hookups and put no effort in (these are those who end up bitter and childless), but you need to move on from immature women and keep looking. 

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Love exists if you are younger than 30. 

No. Just no. 

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

In the night I hear 'em talk The coldest story ever told Somewhere far along this road He lost his soul to a woman so heartless How could you be so heartless? Oh, how could you be so heartless?

How could you be so cold as the winter wind when it breeze, yo

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

"To learn to love

is to be stripped of all love

until you are wholly without love

because until you have gone naked and afraid

into this cold dark place

where all love is taken from you

you will not know

that you are wholly within love."

- Madeleine L'Engle

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

"The Greeks distinguished four types of love: storge, philia, eros, and agape:

- Storge, familial love, is a word for the bond that exists between one who loves and persons, animals, and the things that surround him. It is compatible with quite a bit of taken-for-grantedness or even of hatred at times. 

- Philia pertains to friends, freely chosen because of mutual compatibility and common values. 

- Eros is passion, not only of a sexual nature, but also of an aesthetic or spiritual nature, for what is conceived of as supremely beautiful and desirable.

- Agape love is manifested when one person has much to give to another more needy. It is generous self-donation without concern for reward."

How Does the Church Define Love? | Catholic Answers Q&A

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

Interestingly, real-life speakers of ancient Greek almost never demarcated meanings this way. They often used some words either interchangeably or used different words in different contexts that coincidentally had the same meaning

 

Define "love" and then we can talk.

Sounds like you don't have a great understanding of the concept, however you define it.  Why is it the woman's responsibility to take an interest in the man.  Why does the number of people a woman has slept with even matter?  Whatever the definition of "love" is, it certainly doesn't include a clause that says "and it is impossible to love someone if you've slept with more than XX people."

Sounds like no one wants to sleep with you, and instead of being honest and saying that and confronting the reasons for that and making a change, you're embarking on some basically illiterate rant.  Focus on yourself, on being a better, more interesting, and more empathetic person, and the rest will come

 
Ruleof72

You sound like a cuck.

And I'm married btw.

Pretty sure no one who uses the word "cuck" seriously is married.  I'm not sure your right hand counts as a sexual partner, either.

Grow up, get of your mom's basement, get a job, and then come tell me you're married.  Because when you talk like a pimply 15 year old trying to act tough on the internet... I'm going to assume you're 15.

 
consultt

Ah yes empathy attracts more women to sleep with you

This may come as a shock, but yes, being a decent human being does make people more interested in you as a romantic/sexual/etc partner!

Listening to all of these alt-right incels giving advice on anything, let alone how to attract the interest of a woman, is always a joy.

 

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