Thoughts on Hip-Hop | Favorite Rappers
Do you think your Wu-Tang sword can defeat me?
Do people in finance enjoy rap music? For example, if you play rap out loud in the office or in a social environment, how does the older generation view this? Only asking because I pretty much only listen to rap or classical... Obviously the younger generation listens to plenty of hip-hop, but do senior professionals ever bump some Tunechi (sunglasses smilin emoji)? Or is it more of a "shut that ghetto shit off" vibe you'd get from your seniors
Curious as to who the finance community is slapping. Drop 1-3 of your favorite artists & put me on game!
--if you don't like rap put me on to some classical or jazz music (Don't really like Rock - please don't sue me. If you suggest Country I'll punch myself in the face)
I got a list. Here's the order of my list that it's in:
The best MC (according to barbershop debates):
Ah, yes. The one who gave us Fack. I see you are a man of culture as well
Who could have guessed the WSO community is made up of a bunch of suburban Nathans lol
I like Eminem too but this was just so predictable
Lil mosey
Run the Jewels
Killer Mike by himself
All of Swishahouse
Dr. Dre (The Chronic and The Chronic 2001? "I mean, c'mon man!")
Eminmen
Ice Cube
Durrough
Three Six Mafia
*insert Sippin' On Some Syrup intro*
My thought on hip hop is its the greatest genre and at times the purest form of music that represents our culture. Only Soul music compares from a cultural and quality aspect. Shouts to Stevie Wonder and the Isley Brothers, among others. Shouts to Nas and Andre 3000, among others.
3stacks... W
1. I love mainstream "nightclub" hip hop. Such as Lil Durk, Lil Baby Migos, Future, Drake, Travis Scott etc Even though it is shallow compared to the classics brought to us by 2pac and his cohort, modern club hip hop is the shit when you're drunk af with your friends and you're looking for a great time out.
2. I kinda hate the new ultra violent drill music out of NYC with people like Notti Osama and Nick Blicky and things like that they've taken the violence to another level rather than keeping it lowkey like Lil Durk or Lil Baby.
3. Also people need to stop complaining about the Young Thug YSL arrests and the fact that more seems to be on the way. To be honest, I was surprised some of the things rappers would say on songs before and always wondered why they weren't getting arrested for it like 6ix9ine. In my opinion YSL got themselves into the predicated they're in except for Gunna, I genuinely feel bad for him.
4. A lot of impressionable black people took this hip hop shit too seriously and now if you speak against gangs and the killings like Charleston White or aren't a gangster but black like DJ Akademiks, people would hate you so deeply and come up with the most ridiculous reasons as to why. The truth is some black people only see other black people as gangsters or non human, no in between and they act upon those deep seated feelings without knowing why. I see this all the time when if a black person happens to not be gang affiliated they get pressed more than any other race. Chris Rock said it best, black people support you more for going to prison and not snitching than going to school and getting a masters degree.
Surface level. But some will empathize
1. Of course brother
2. Also hate that shit. Wish that people would stop killing each other. The only way this can happen is if we implement stricter gun control (/s)
3. Yeah, they rap about killing far too often. As insensitive as it sounds it's sadly their reality
4. Agreed. My stepdad is black so it pains me to hear him talk about losing family to the gang culture. From another perspective I also understand people see no way out and that's all they know. Some are instinctive and are able to make it out of the hood -- but most will never know any better. It starts with education though, like you said. "Only the educated are free.." Too bad modern pedagogy teaches us that gender is a spectrum and capitalism is bad.
On your last point, rappers don't rock with DJ Akademiks because his whole game is to drum up drama and gossip and click bait shit, not because he isn't a gangster. His whole hustle revolves around making others look bad. He is the black version of those fake ass gossip magazines. That's why the rappers don't fuck with him and so that's why their followers don't. But in reality, people live for this drama and he is wildly popular because of it. He pretty much started a whole wave on YouTube of those rap documentaries/commentaries and all that. Personally, I find him corny and don't really care enough to follow his views.
Charleston White is a clown, idk how you can take him seriously. Yeah, his message is great but he clearly has an angle and succeeded in achieving it. Dude is too much of a comedian to be taken seriously. I do agree though that there is an epidemic of young black kids who are highly susceptible to gangster rap and try to mimic all of what they hear and see when they otherwise didn't have to. They think dropping bodies and selling drugs is cool until they are in a 6x8 cell for the rest of their life and it is too late.
I like your point on why rappers don't like Akademiks but my rebuttal to that is they don't hold the same energy for white or non black people who do the same thing like DJ Vlad or Adam22, the most i've seen people do is jokingly call Vlad a police officer and respectfully disagree with Adam 22, both of whom make controversial inflammatory statements meant to stir up drama, these rappers are much more cordial and understanding with them then Akademiks where they go as far as threaten to kill him when they see him for simply repeating what they said on his instagram if he doesn't take it down, while they laugh it off with Vlad and Adam for doing the same thing. Trap Lore Ross got praise for doing crime documentaries about black gangs and got praised for it, he wasn't called a snitch.
I've seen this happen on multiple occasions in real life too and I think it ties to my theory that certain black people do not like and actively detest non gangster black people particularly when they are in close proximity to their line of business ie rap/entertainment. We saw people try to jump Charlamagne for talking about Nicki Minaj but no one had the same energy for DJ Envy. It sounds bad to say out loud but I think its a bitter truth we need to address in our community.
Which leads me to Charleston White, who I agree he is really a joke clown and a bit too comedic but that does not mean his message is wrong. He said "death to all gang members" because their main victims over the past 40 years have been black people (a statement and reasoning I agree with), we have lost more black people to gangs in that period than to the KKK and police killings. But Charleston White got a whole lot of backlash and again death threats from the very same black people who are the biggest victims of gang violence. We have a serious case of Stockholm syndrome with gang and gangsterism in America and we need to attack it aggressively like the cancer that it is.
And I don't mean that poetically, it is really a cancer in our communities and if it means cutting off the limbs that this cancer is growing on, ie certain gangs and gang members so be it. You would never ever ever ever ever see asians pandering for a Chinese or Japanese gang that their only victims were their own. I can imagine them being meticulous and extremely vicious in stamping out such a development. Why shouldn't we as black people do the same? People who think we shouldn't are people that think that because we are black by default we should be understanding of violent killings of our innocent because of our race.
I don't know why I ranted, I guess its because i keep this side of hip hop and pro black interests away from my wso side and have never got to debate it.
Madvillainy is a Magnum Opus of lyricism. Probably one of the few 10/10 albums of the past 20 years.
Literally there is something so mysterious about MF doom. It makes his music more interesting. his lyricism is unmatched, ppl think Kendrick Lamar is a lyricist… MF doom is another lvl. My favorites are : accordion, raid, rhymes like dimes and hoe cakes
There are so many people that I work with who only like the 'old heads' and label all modern rap as 'trash.' It pisses me off to no end. Yes, there's a lot of talent from 90s & 00s rap, and there is a lot of SoundCloud garbage shit out these days. But man... there are some good fucking artists out recently.
I love J. Cole, Kendrick, Anderson Paak, Jay Critch, Joey Badass, Aaron May, JID, The Underachievers, Flatbush Zombies, Rocky/Ferg/etc., just to name a few. I'm also super big into alternative, and I'd say that 50% of my general music taste is split between those. I listen to more hip hop in the winter months, alternative in the summer. Kind of unconsciously too, may be the weather!
whole asap mob has the old school nyc feel I like
Couple I've never heard of, I'll check out. Cheers
MF Doom
This is embarrassing:
Young Dolph
Kevin Gates
Lil Uzi Vert
Juice Wrld
NF
Melodic rap ftw
I listen to everything, sometimes, I need some ignorant shit, and I'll start blasting Pop Smoke, Fivio Foreign, Lil' Tjay, old school Dipset, Lil' Wayne, 2pac's gangsta shit; it doesn't matter. I know the difference between entertainment and real life; not like I'm gonna go do a drill.
If we're trying to find where the hoes at, then I'll play some Drake.
If I'm trying to find God, I'll find some DMX.
If I'm feeling entrepreneurial, then I'll put on some Jay.
I'll play some Nas if I'm in my feelings and need to do some soul searching.
I might need some motivation, and Kanye will get you through some tough times.
It all depends on the vibe I need, there's a rapper for every occasion, and 2pac is the GOAT.
And sometimes I don't wanna hear rap at all.
Honestly, Yeezus is a masterpiece, but also Kanye's last great album. Kanye is the most artistic rapper in my opinion.
Wu-Tang is good. Method Man is my favorite.
OutKast and UGK are great.
J. Cole is solid.
Cypress Hill is fun to listen to.
P. Diddy - Bad Boy for Life.
Drake is vibey.
Jay-z a certain mood.
Lesser known rappers: Del tha funky homosapien, Devin the dude
Jazz: Miles Davis, Vijay Iyer, Tyshawn Sorey, Gerald Clayton, Herbie Hancock
Love it. Thanks for the Jazz m8. Yeezus & Outkast goated
I like rap but it was the “how many fingers” or “how many lights” test for the overlords of our society. As soon as people were fine with rappers using the same sample like two years apart “I ain’t mad at ya”/“don’t leave me girl” for example our overloads knew the sheep would be silent for the slaughter.
Kankan
Best rappers out atm:
Playboi Carti
Yeat
2018 6ix9ine
NBA Youngboy
KSI
Jack Harlow
KSI is a worse musician than 69.... and that's saying a lot. He should stick to boxing YouTubers
Yeah I was trolling with KSI. Tbf tho you can't deny 2018 6ix9ine was fire
Last Poets
Watt’s Prophets
These guys straddle the line between spoken word and modern rap. Beyonder is a tour de force.
I like the shit I bumped in middle school
Lil Wayne
Eminem
Jeezy
I bump Kevin Gates, Lil Baby, Dolph, Moneybagg Yo
Post Malone one of my favorites
Future top 5 Spotify all time artists
Old MGK
Old Kanye
Old Young Thug
Waka Flocka
Lil Skies
Travis Scott on top 10 Spotify but idfw him anymore
Agree with you for the most prt but waka is just mid bro. He had like one good song and the rest is trash
15th and the 1st
Lurkin
For My Dawgs
Rooster in My Rari
O Let’s Do It
Grove St. Party
50k Remix
Kid cudi
monkey noises
based
DJ Screw
NBA Youngboy
Pooh Shiesty
Jack Harlow
YBN Nahmir
Arizona Zervas
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Top Rappers I know:
reddit moment
Think the undisputed #1 rapper of today is Kendrick but my current repeat listen is Baby Keem
Baby Keem is just new age Kendrick
Ain't nothing wrong with that
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Been on a huge Freddie Gibbs kick lately. Also been bumping Baby Keems old stuff I just discovered 🔥🔥
> but do senior professionals ever bump some Tunechi (sunglasses smilin emoji)? Or is it more of a "shut that ghetto shit off" vibe you'd get from your seniors
Don't play rap in the office.
LOL this is what I needed to hear. I shall refrain
Rap "Music"
Agreed a lot of the new stuff is garbo but at least it's better than beep-boop music
lol
I like the super old-school days the best. The Sugarhill Gang, Grandmaster Flash and the Furious Five, and Kurtis Blow were a few of my favorites. "The Message" was said to be a pioneer in hip-hop music for making it possible for groups like Public Enemy and N.W.A. to write songs that were more socially aware.
Electro-Funk (early 80's hip-hop mixed with synthesizers and drum machines) bands were good too; think Newcleus ("Jam On It"), Man Parrish ("Boogie Down Bronx"), Whodini ("Five Minutes of Funk"), and of course, Afrika Bambaataa ("Planet Rock").
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