Vacation Rental Investing?

Anyone have experience building a rental portfolio? Have banked a few bonuses over the years and now think it might be good to get into the vacation rental market. Thoughts on resources to look at, how you diligenced your rental investment, or any other things you wished you knew before making the investment?

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I'm interested in getting into the space when I have more free time. I like the AirBnB empire concept. You can even just rent a place and start an AirBnB. Very little capital needed to start. 

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I think AirBnB is higher though right? Also, if you have 100-200+ AirBnBs and property managers for all of them, you're basically getting passive income.

"If you always put limits on everything you do, physical or anything else, it will spread into your work and into your life. There are no limits. There are only plateaus, and you must not stay there, you must go beyond them." - Bruce Lee
 

AirBnB may be a bit more profitable since short-term rentals are generally priced at a premium on a per-night basis, but using property managers is likely to eat into your profit. It all depends on how much money you have, but I would only start diversifying into real estate with a net worth of at least $20m

 
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The most important thing is going to be the market you get into, so look into occupancy rates / paid nights per year and average nightly rates to figure out what you can expect for income each year. Ideally, you want a place with less seasonality too or a year-round draw. If it’s not where you live, you’re going to have to pay a property manager so factor in their commissions. After that, just keep in mind that the cost of homes in most vacation markets are pretty inflated post-COVID.

 
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I have one grossing $80K a year in rental revenue. That’s up nearly 100% since pre-covid. I’d love to buy more, but I can’t figure out what the “new normal” is and the vacation home market is on fire. I don’t think it’s early anymore - there were more listings added to AirDNA in January than anytime in history.
 

  1. Use Airdna to assess market viability 
  2. Research like crazy any risk of local market regulations which can shut down your Airbnb overnight 
  3. Find a unique property. Woods, water funky, other. You don’t want to be the millionth bland condo owner in Orlando trying to compete with everyone else and hoteliers. 
  4. Hire a good local cleaner you can trust
  5. Use a channel manager to automate your calendar/messages/pricing
  6. Profit

In summary, STR is highly ROI potential but also high touch. You have 50+ lessees a year vs. one in a LTR. Ive made more money than I expected, but put in more sweat equity and wouldn’t call it yet “passive”. 

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I have one grossing $80K a year in rental revenue. That's up nearly 100% since pre-covid. I'd love to buy more, but I can't figure out what the "new normal" is and the vacation home market is on fire. I don't think it's early anymore - there were more listings added to AirDNA in January than anytime in history.
 

  1. Use Airdna to assess market viability 
  2. Research like crazy any risk of local market regulations which can shut down your Airbnb overnight 
  3. Find a unique property. Woods, water funky, other. You don't want to be the millionth bland condo owner in Orlando trying to compete with everyone else and hoteliers. 
  4. Hire a good local cleaner you can trust
  5. Use a channel manager to automate your calendar/messages/pricing
  6. Profit

In summary, STR is highly ROI potential but also high touch. You have 50+ lessees a year vs. one in a LTR. Ive made more money than I expected, but put in more sweat equity and wouldn't call it yet "passive". 

Do you have any resources you can share for models when reviewing viability?

 

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