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relative to excel, definitely. However, it might be because I spend 20x more time in excel
Is there an equal/better alternative? Word is pretty damn good IMO.
With due respect, have you ever used any word processor besides Word? It is true that you can format your page however you want in Word ... as long as you have enough time and enough hair to tear out. If I want to control the look of my page in a fairly complex document, and want to get it done in half the time, I use WordPerfect. If I just need to slap some text on a page and really don't give a what it looks like when I'm done, I use Word, and let it decide how the finished product should look. Otherwise, I fritter away all sorts of time fighting with it. It does what it wants.
Lemme guess... are you putting together a memo? Formatting tables in word is so frustrating...
THIS.
and columns in general...fuck columns
It really is pretty awful if you don't work with it every day. I honestly think Word Perfect from the late 80's was better.
Formatting anything in word is so frustrating.... I feel your pain man, it's so much worse than excel and powerpoint. I don't get it either.
Would you rather write on a piece of paper?
Sometimes, yes. I feel like taking a 39-page typewritten contract and getting out a blue gel pen and just writing out the entire damn thing by hand. That is how frustrating Microsoft Word can be sometimes, when it seems to be deliberately attempting to sabotage any sense of goodwill that may have at one time (yesterday) existed in this depressing shithole of a planet.
I mean, if you really want formatting, you have to learn LaTex. But that's got a steep learning curve to basic use, and formatting is really terrifying. On the other hand, there are templates which make life a little easier.
Try Lyx out- I heard it's kinda in-between Word and Latex.
The problem with TeX is that even if you know it, others will probably not have editing knowledge and will only be able to read it in PDF form.
But TeX is great, especially for math formulas. And it's freeware.
Yeah, it's a major concern. I'm a math major, so that's something I tend to take for granted way too much. That's why I was thinking of Lyx, I heard it's relatively straightforward with a lot of inheritance from Word. But then again, it's probably not standard on a work computer/IT people might throw tantrums if you try to install it.
I think the only reason it's still around is because it comes with office, and is basically guaranteed to be compatible with old documents.
But Latex is great. Everyone would always marvel how my math homework looked like it was photocopied from the text. You just have to reformat everything to a pdf; most people do not respond well to a .tex file.
Microsoft's product development always confuses me. Its like they're trying to force their "innovations" down users' throats, between their changes to the UI and horrible auto-format preferences. Seriously, fuck the ribbon UI. Windows 8 will be an abomination if they try to make it a core part of the OS.
I think I'd be happiest if they just released updated versions of XP and MS 2003. They do everything you need. The files are organized. Leave the fancy GUI stuff to Apple.
I use Adobe InCopy for text based documents and LaTex for scientific based ones. Sometimes I edit my Powerpoint presentations (or text documents) with InDesign to make them look better. And since I got a bunch of flashy and cool looking presets my job is pretty much done.
is it too much to ask to standardize shortcut keys across PPT, Word, Excel and Outlook? I mean these were all made by the same company right?
Less than a decade ago, BB banks were using Word to make pitchbooks. The horror...
The 2011 Word for Mac is way user friendly for formatting, aligning etc. or maybe the older versions of Word were so shitty, that I got pleasantly surprised when working in the current one?!
hey guys, does anyone have a standard pitchbook so that we could have a look at it?
Nobody working in banking will you show you one of their books, but there are some floating around the internet that you can look at.
Qatalyst's Autonomy M&A pitch to Oracle is a good example (with some egregious errors by whatever analyst made the book). http://www.scribd.com/doc/66891999/Qatalyst-s-Autonomy-Slides-Set-1
[quote=Clever Name]Nobody working in banking will you show you one of their books, but there are some floating around the internet that you can look at.
Qatalyst's Autonomy M&A pitch to Oracle is a good example (with some egregious errors by whatever analyst made the book). http://www.scribd.com/doc/66891999/Qatalyst-s-Autonomy-Slides-Set-1[/qu…]
Egregious is way too strong... the book wasn't bad at all, especially because it's a draft and is clearly marked as such. People on this forum need a reality check.
Linked the wrong one, my fault. These did go to Oracle (Larry Ellison, no less), as they were leaked from Oracle's own website. So, the "draft" disclaimer is irrelevant. Overall, it's a decent book, but there are multiple errors that are easy to spot. Considering Oracle's M&A team is staffed with former bankers, they can spot these mistakes just as fast, if not faster. It may not be a big deal (in the grand scheme of things, it didn't matter at all, as Oracle clearly wanted to buy Autonomy, but didn't get the chance to), but it's far from perfect.
See thread: http://www.wallstreetoasis.com/forums/qatalyst-pitch-books
And your post:
Wow, great job taking things out of context... clearly you didn't read the whole thread...
Also my post:
It clearly does matter that the draft sticker is on them... and the fact that "it went to so and so no less." Is completely fucking irrelevant. We've sent books to the CFOs and CEOs of companies that are double the size of Oracle and they have draft stickers on them because they wanted to see where we were regardless of the fact that it wasn't fully scrubbed, and they were ok with that because it was done in the name of expediency. You don't have any context on the situation, so it very well could have been an identical circumstance. I completely stand by what I said... it was a quality book and it is saturated with some nightmarish charts that make it incredibly difficult to spot errors. The errors that were made weren't egregious at all... that's a completely inaccurate description for them... people were nitpicking trying to act like they were MDs, when in reality most of the kids on this forum who are analysts have made those types of mistakes.
My first post, which was taken out of context, was in reference to someone who was making excuses for the analysts making it sound like they have it so much harder than analysts anywhere else. The point of my reply was simply that your team won't give a shit if you are overstaffed / jammed up or not. That doesn't mean that I believe that the work was shitty or that I was judging it, because clearly at no point did I say anything negative about the book itself. In fact, I said quite the opposite which is easily referenced above. I was merely pointing out to someone who at the time had like 1 or 2 posts on this site that was talking in a condescending manner to current and former analysts as if we "didn't know that Qatalyst analysts get crushed" that the environment within your group will be vastly different than external people judging the work from afar.
Next time you try calling someone out, read the full extent of what the said first.
Good talk.
No competition means no incentive to improve (on the non-extant competition).
Word made my rage pretty hard today, got some weird looks.
Please pay the developers of MS Word much, much LESS. They are obviously spending their ill-gotten gains on drugs which are f**king with their brains. Without doubt the most error ridden, putrid flesh hanging piece of shi..software I have the displeasure of using. MS Word OWNED the market in word processing software and are trashing it all by themselves.
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