Your thoughts on BLM

I think most people use BLM as a term for the movement and not the organization

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BLM the organization, assuming it’s not controlled opposition, is a corrupt grifting scheme taking advantage of the normal black people who just want to be treated equally in this country and not have to deal with the growing racism, particularly in these bumfuck rural MAGA towns which most of you have never expected experienced and likely never will 

I went to a very diverse high school and most of my black friends know the organization is a bunch of nonsense and has hijacked the movement. I don’t have a single black friend who has a BLM sticker, only the SJW types

Of course this is the new WSO so this topic is about to go off the rails nonetheless

There are plenty of organizations that are set up as not for profit that have done some bad stuff but they do not seem to find their way to WSO as a topic.  

Lol idk how people are trying to skirt around the fact this is one of the biggest scams that’s been pushed by the media and society in recent memory. Of course someone has already brought up Trump.

Regardless of the posts above and how you view BLM, I think it's OK for us as a society to hold groups - any group - accountable when there's so much fundraising. If you believe the media, BLM raised $90 million. Any group that raises that much should be transparent about how those funds are being used. 

I'm in awe of that number just because it can do so, so much good in the community and it's a downright shame to waste even 1 penny of it. 90MM is a lot of scholarships, a lot of community centers, a lasting endowment to build upon for generations going forward, etc, etc. There are just so many positive things that can come from that money that we should hold people accountable for it. 

If it was up to me, I'd take a "when you find yourself in a hole, stop digging" approach. I would give amnesty to the current leadership, but they have to step aside. Salvage what is left and put in a collection of leaders that can use the remaining funds - whatever that is - in a positive way. Forget the finger-pointing and media articles, just please do something positive with all those funds. 

The movement. NOT the organization, which is a scam and is laundering money.

Can someone actually articulate what BLM is and means.  "BLM" is so simplistic, as are all slogans, and reductionist that it is impossible to find out what the movement actually stands for.

A proper "movement" defines itself on what it is, not what it isn't.  Which has not been apparent, on purpose I'm sure.

Dont have a problem at all with the way that money was spent. White guilt idiot liberals and their money for dumb causes are always soon parted

Started out as something reasonable before devolving into a way to capitalize off of white guilt. It's a complete sham

If you can't see the grift... you're being grifted.

Everyone on here keeps saying “the organization is messed up but the movement isn’t”

The movement is fucked up as well. Both are highly related, and everywhere gangs of BLM supporters go they leave death, destruction, and literal fires in their wake. They destroy cities then loot stores. They’ve severely beaten people for the crime of not letting them loot their stores. They are closely linked to ANTIFA, who is an even bigger terrorist fish.

Do black lives matter ? Yes.

Is BLM a group of good people whose actions promote constructive progress and aim to end racism? No. They do the opposite.

You watched the same videos all summer of 2020 that I did gentleman and ladies. You saw the burning looting and murdering

Think it's been said that there's a difference between the org and movement, so won't relitigate that. 

But let's take a step back and look at the message: there's an implicit "too" on the end of it. The idea is, simply, that the country and our culture doesn't give a damn when black people are shot and killed by police - the people who are supposed to be there to protect the population. How many times have we seen "Unarmed black man shot by police" - far too many. The idea is that black lives matter too , that we shouldn't be so quick to shrug and say "damn shame but he looked suspicious", and that only a judge and jury may sentence someone to death, NOT a street cop and certainly not some fat shit carrying a gun around his housing complex. That person's life mattered. That's the beauty of America to me - that baked into our core by our founders is the enlightenment idea that we would rather a guilty man go free than an innocent man locked up or killed. We are not China and government officials (aka police) should not be able to dole out punishment on a whim. 

I think we get caught up in the social media clip/sound bite he-said she-said bullshit. It's so easy to get swayed when all you're seeing is what appears to be people taking advantage of a situation. Those people are wrong. But the reality is that for a long time the country has shrugged at the deaths of black men and women at the hands of the police, and that needs to change. 

I'm not sure why one corrupt person undermines the message of a movement.  

The entire point of BLM is that black people's lives are treated as less worthwhile in the United States.  Black people aren't inherently better or worse than white people or Asian people or anyone else.  They're just as likely to be heroes, or assholes, or saints, or corrupt pieces of shit as anyone else, on an individual level.  So the fact that this woman is a disgrace isn't a reflection on what BLM is trying to say.

But on a societal level, black people are second class citizens in the United States.  A broad range of institutional bigotry reflects that, whether it's mortgage lenders and brokers steering black people out of better neighborhoods (as recently happened on Long Island) or the justice system itself handing down disproportionately harsh sentences to black offenders (which the US Sentencing Commission reported on as recently as 2017).

All of which is to say, you can shit on BLM the organization for its many failings, but denying the fundamental justification for the anger that gave rise to BLM as a movement does contain an element of bigotry, because black people in this country are right to think the system is biased against them, and if something as basic as the court system itself isn't going to give them justice, or if elected politicians are going to water down their vote with voting laws and gerrymandering that specifically disenfranchise minorities, what other recourse do they have but to protest?

No one seems to think that the fact that the NRA is one of the most corrupt organizations in the country means we should repeal the Second Amendment.  Why this should be different is a mystery to me... except, of course, if you are a bigot.

It’s a genius marketing phrase that’s for sure. Not believing in it gets you called a racist so everyone is forced into approving the slogan. It’s funny how all these nyc shops have it plastered on their front windows. It’s like not having the “A” grade, not having that sign is bad for business. Eventually people will wake up and realize that’s it’s a selfish organization designed to profit with the guise of improving human rights. 

Highlight of that article was the use of "Baby Father" in reference to her baby daddy.

A movement that would fight for equal rights, against racism, against black people getting screwed over by the justice system etc woud be supported by most people on this forum and society in general.

The reality is that the BLM organisationis is a corrupt group of race hustlers that are not only racist themselves, calling themselves Marxists (who was an anti semitic), lying about history, blaming the white men for everything. Non stop firing up people to loot, rob and murder. They never adress gang violence in Chicago for example or the fact that an extreme high percentage of black children or raised without a father in the picture.

I think the net effect of his organisation and also ''the movement', that people, white and black have become more racist and divided. I think they have played a big part in creating the enormous tensions this country and even a big part of the whole western world are currently experiencing.

Black crime is a far bigger issue with a much greater impact on the wellbeing of Americans than police violence against blacks or white violence against blacks, both of which are trivial. Far more blacks attack whites than vice versa. When a very small percentage of the population commits such an outsized amount of theft and murder, they're going to have issues with the cops. The meme number isn't really even the full picture. When you really narrow it down it's more like black males between the ages of 15 and 35 committing a strong plurality of murders and other crimes in America. That's not 13%, it's less than half of it. 

BLM fundamentally isn't about "equality", because blacks aren't treated particularly differently relative to their disproportionate levels of violence. It's about forcing whites to accept their criminality like they themselves accept their criminality. It's about allowing them to carve out a quasi-Bantustan existence where they're held to lower civilizational norms than other racial groups. How much irrational support do you see from whites or asians for their criminal underclass elements? Not much - people just want the scum taken out and locked up. Hispanics too, really, though to a lesser extent. 

If we were an intellectually serious country the mantra would be "Black Crime Matters".