18 Months IB in London trying to move to PE
Hi all,
I'm 18 months into an analyst seat at a specialised London M&A boutique (think Fenchurch). Have prior large cap PE internship experience from before and Masters from target MS programme (think LSE/Imperial)
Looking to move buyside in autumn, targeting UMM/large cap (think Bridgepoint, Hg, Cinven, Apax, Astorg, IK type funds).
Got into two fund processes earlier this year through recruiters. Didn't get past the Fund's screening, with feedback both times being "too junior"
Trying to figure out:
- Is "too junior" at 18m actually a timing thing, or the polite version of a brand filter?
- BB/EB folks at A1/A2 stage - are you hearing the same?
- Anyone who made the jump from a small/sector-boutique background - what timing actually worked, and what changed between the early conversations and the ones that converted?
- On London recruiters - is KEA / Dartmouth / PER / Arkesden still the right coverage for UMM seats? Does your sector specialisation matter?
Happy to DM.
Cheers all
Based on the most helpful WSO content, here’s what you need to know:
"Too Junior" Feedback:
Timing for Boutique Backgrounds:
Recruiter Coverage for UMM Seats:
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If you’d like more tailored advice or resources, feel free to ask!
Sources: Senior Associate Recruiting - Timeline for Recruiter Outreach, MM pe vs MF, Q&A - Private Equity Internships, My Private Equity Recruiting Process, MM PE out of undergrad worth it?
bump
move to GS/MS/JPM if you want a realistic chance mate
Can you elaborate please on how the process looks like on your end (as i understand you are PE at UMM)? do you not interview anyone outside of BB/EB? Just really wondering on the process there
I work in infra, so yes we would consider specialised boutiques - perhaps same for your sector. Easiest way is to simply look up where other firm alums have ended up / check team pages at your target funds. We would absolutely look at infra-focused shops (e.g. DC advisory), but honestly we have such a huge selection from BB's/EB's we never need to.
E.g. - I am now at a MF and currently recruiting a couple of associates into the team. Despite being somewhat open to smaller shops, the best candidates and those that got the best looks internally are 99% from BB/EB (MS, GS, Evercore, Laz etc.). It's also an instant signal to me and other hiring managers - I have some degree of confidence that those candidates have received decent training, have experienced high dealflow, are generally more polished and less of a "risk". You could probably overcome that by networking and a bit of luck, but the reality is that top brands are always preferred.
Stay in banking If your hours are decent
PE sucks
Is it hours/workload that sucks for you?
My hours are not decent but i would be fine keeping up with that if it wasn't for the ridiculous amount of micromanagement
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