18 Months IB in London trying to move to PE

Hi all,

I'm 18 months into an analyst seat at a specialised London M&A boutique (think Fenchurch). Have prior large cap PE internship experience from before and Masters from target MS programme (think LSE/Imperial) 

Looking to move buyside in autumn, targeting UMM/large cap (think Bridgepoint, Hg, Cinven, Apax, Astorg, IK type funds).

Got into two fund processes earlier this year through recruiters. Didn't get past the Fund's screening, with feedback both times being "too junior"

Trying to figure out:

  • Is "too junior" at 18m actually a timing thing, or the polite version of a brand filter?
  • BB/EB folks at A1/A2 stage - are you hearing the same?
  • Anyone who made the jump from a small/sector-boutique background - what timing actually worked, and what changed between the early conversations and the ones that converted?
  • On London recruiters - is KEA / Dartmouth / PER / Arkesden still the right coverage for UMM seats? Does your sector specialisation matter?

Happy to DM.

Cheers all

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Based on the most helpful WSO content, here’s what you need to know:

  1. "Too Junior" Feedback:

    • At 18 months in a boutique M&A role, the "too junior" feedback could be a mix of both timing and brand perception. Many UMM/large-cap PE funds prefer candidates with 2+ years of IB experience, especially from BB/EB firms, as they are seen as more seasoned and have likely closed deals.
    • For boutique backgrounds, the perception of being "too junior" might also stem from a lack of exposure to larger, more complex transactions that funds value. This isn't necessarily a dealbreaker but does mean you may need to position your experience more effectively.
  2. Timing for Boutique Backgrounds:

    • Candidates from smaller or sector-focused boutiques often find success after completing 2-3 years in IB. This allows you to build a stronger deal sheet and gain more technical and transactional experience.
    • Between early conversations and successful conversions, the key changes are often:
      • A more robust deal sheet with notable transactions.
      • Improved technical and case study preparation.
      • Networking and leveraging relationships with recruiters and alumni.
  3. Recruiter Coverage for UMM Seats:

    • KEA, Dartmouth, PER, and Arkesden are still strong players for UMM/large-cap PE recruiting in London.
    • Sector specialisation can matter, especially if you're targeting funds with a specific focus (e.g., tech, healthcare). Highlighting your boutique's sector expertise could help differentiate you.
    • Building relationships with these recruiters and staying on their radar is crucial. Regularly update them on your progress and deal experience.
  4. Next Steps:

    • Focus on building your deal sheet over the next 6-12 months. Aim to highlight any notable transactions or responsibilities that demonstrate your readiness for PE.
    • Strengthen your technical skills and case study preparation. Funds often test candidates rigorously on LBO modeling and investment theses.
    • Continue networking with recruiters and alumni at your target funds. Personal connections can sometimes help overcome brand biases.
    • Consider targeting funds that value sector expertise or have a history of hiring from boutiques.

If you’d like more tailored advice or resources, feel free to ask!

Sources: Senior Associate Recruiting - Timeline for Recruiter Outreach, MM pe vs MF, Q&A - Private Equity Internships, My Private Equity Recruiting Process, MM PE out of undergrad worth it?

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Can you elaborate please on how the process looks like on your end (as i understand you are PE at UMM)? do you not interview anyone outside of BB/EB? Just really wondering on the process there 

 

I work in infra, so yes we would consider specialised boutiques - perhaps same for your sector. Easiest way is to simply look up where other firm alums have ended up / check team pages at your target funds. We would absolutely look at infra-focused shops (e.g. DC advisory), but honestly we have such a huge selection from BB's/EB's we never need to.

E.g. - I am now at a MF and currently recruiting a couple of associates into the team. Despite being somewhat open to smaller shops, the best candidates and those that got the best looks internally are 99% from BB/EB (MS, GS, Evercore, Laz etc.). It's also an instant signal to me and other hiring managers - I have some degree of confidence that those candidates have received decent training, have experienced high dealflow, are generally more polished and less of a "risk". You could probably overcome that by networking and a bit of luck, but the reality is that top brands are always preferred.

 

Is it hours/workload that sucks for you? 

My hours are not decent but i would be fine keeping up with that if it wasn't for the ridiculous amount of micromanagement

 
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