MF PE Senior Associate Leaving for Family Business

After so many years of obsessing over "being on the right path" that afforded me the most optionality, I have recently decided to leave the industry to take a stab at a more entrepreneurial career path with the family business. Some quick context:

  • Current MF PE Senior Associate up for VP promotions end of this year. Not confirmed, but no plan to wait until year-end with the way COVID has been impacting my work life. 
  • The family business is a <$500M traditional industrial manufacturing business controlled by a few quite a few different stakeholders. We just so happen to be the biggest shareholders with <20% stake, and have been the most actively involved family over the past few decades.   

While I absolutely understand the incredibly fortunate position I am in compared to many of my peers, I have never viewed the "family business" as a backup plan by any means. I entered PE truly passionate about investing and the "chase" that comes with dealmaking. I also very much enjoy the decision-making and active involvement with portfolio companies post-investment, albeit somewhat limited coming from a MF platform. I have, before this year, always assumed my long-term career would be in either PE or investing behind a highly concentrated public markets strategy.

However, with more recent reflections, I realized that being a true "principal" of a business, or in other words being "my own boss", is also something that is very exciting. Even if I follow the PE Partner path, unless my last name is Schwarzman or Gray, I am bound to remain a cog in the wheel. I am too risk averse to start a company of my own, but still find this as an attractive entrepreneurial alternative. Obviously, if I was looking at inheriting a LVMH/Exor/ArcelorMittal, that would be more of a no-brainer. With this, I would be pivoting "downstream" so to speak, having dealt with large-cap management before to now helping operate a middle market business.


My main concerns are below: 

  1. Is this a crazy move? Is it possible to get back on the PE career treadmill assuming things don't work out? How would firms view this experience? Or would an MBA make more sense, despite being on the high end of age/work experience by then. 
  2. I don't expect PE associates to be natural operators of real businesses, despite "the billion dollar deals" we may have done. However, when it comes down to it, how applicable are MF PE skillsets to LMM-MM companies? (<$500M EV companies in not the sexiest of industries) Is there just a clear mismatch?
  3. In the PE world, we look at companies through their potential to 2x-3x our equity investment. Is that a realistic expectation to apply to the current situation?

Understand that this is a more unique situation, but would love to get any advice or thoughts from you guys, especially for the people that have left the cozy PE path for something more entrepreneurial. Clearly still ironing out my thought process with such a big career jump.

 
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Hey man. I went through— or rather am going through right now— a very similar experience (at least to whatever extent that such distinctive opportunities by nature can be similar). Feel free to pm if you want to discuss personally. Below are some very unorganized thoughts.

I’m presumably a few years younger than you, but recently moved from a less technical front office finance job, where I was working with big names and throwing around big money, to my tiny industrial manufacturing family business (it was ultimately my decision but I was heavily influenced by external events outside of my control). It’s certainly a deeply personal decision that no one else can make for you, and not one to take lightly, but can be magical if you really lean into it. I don’t have many solid answers to your questions, because again I’m just going through this same thing, but I can at least throw out some perspective, based on an amalgamation of people I’ve talked to, things I’ve read, etc. I’ll mention a fairly big difference maker is what your role would be. If you’re going to be CEO, or at least have a major decision making seat, that will be much more fulfilling (albeit with commensurate responsibility) than just sitting in the finance department. Some thoughts below:

I obviously don’t know your situation at your current role, but I would suggest you continue at the moment with hard work, leaving as gracefully as you can, because you never know when you’ll have come across your coworkers again in the future. That right there could be your ticket back into PE if you realize that’s what you want to do. And if it’s not, it could help down the road if, say, a colleague joins a firm looking to buy MM industrial companies. My point here is that networking is important when getting a job in finance, which you already know, but it’s 10x more important when you’re off doing your own thing. I’m networking more than I ever have right now. Plus if you can successfully run this business, I would imagine you could get some operating partner looks for similar companies owned by PE funds.

I don’t know exactly what the MFPE skill set entails, but I can ensure you that, with that background, you will be able to add value. How much value depends on the current sophistication of the business. Does management already run a tight, optimal ship? Or on the flip side, would you find the rest of your family asking “what’s an EBITDA?”. Ultimately, the need to develop 200 line financial models and intricate analyses diminishes, and will still have its place (probably a simplified version, though) among all the other tasks you’ll be doing. But assuming your background is unique among everyone else, you should offer excellent perspective because, truly, I’ve found most people in business who do not have a finance background simply do not understand finance or investing, which is critical for success. And by the way— you mention slight hesitation because you always dreamed about doing finance/investments. Well guess what, I happen to view my operating role as a finance role. Sure, I do other things outside of finance, but I still consider myself an investor (hey, I’m literally working in a privately owned businesses— isn’t that private equity after all?). Besides, who says you can’t continue to do add-on deals?

I kinda loath the investor vs operator dichotomy; I don’t even know where that came from and I doubt it has any real truth behind it. Operating, like investing, is a skill that can be learned and developed. And as long as you can work with people, you can operate. A big difference is that in your current investing role, you have one job. You might be staffed on a couple different deals, but you know what you need to do and you do it per your VP’s wishes. When operating on your own, it’s not so clear cut. Cause depending on your resources (this may not be super relevant because it appears your company is pretty big), you have a hand in marketing, accounting, HR, etc. You might be the one ordering new toilet paper to restock the bathrooms. You hear people talk about fire drills on a deal where you have to stay up a little past your bed time to get a couple slides ready for IC? In entrepreneurship, you have real fire drills (seriously— one time one of our company buildings a few states away caught on fire, and it was my dad who was up driving there at 3am to deal with the very real ramifications). The people you work with will also be from a different world. I went from working with highly educated, buttoned-up finance professionals to blue collar factory workers and admins with barley high school educations. Now, there’s nothing wrong with those types of people at all, but you must understand that it’s simply not the same as working with your current team. And if you can’t work with these people without bringing up your $20k watch or house in the Hamptons, then you may want to reconsider.

I don’t know if it’s reasonable to 2x-3x the company because I don’t know your company. But one thing I would suggest is taking a close look at the company and trying to define its full potential (in some medium term), then shooting to achieve that.  Otherwise, is a 2x-3x possible? Well, why not? You need to take what’s given to you and just do it, make something out of it. My mantra lately— as naively foolish as this probably is— has been to jut “make it work”. It’s silly, but I come into work every day with a whole slew of crap do deal with. And I just try to make it work. I just do it. Just get it done. It doesn’t always work, but my mindset hasn’t changed. If you want to 2x-3x the company, just make it work. It doesn’t matter that that’s so much easier said than done; just keep working towards it.

Last thing I’ll say is in regards to the family relationship. This is what can make or break this whole operation, and will have to be something you figure out based on your specific scenario (which is further complicated due to other families being involved). Idk what your relationship is with them, but for me, it’s family over everything. You need to have the attitude of family > money, else you could be this close to turning this whole thing into an episode of Succession and cause inseparable breakdowns in relationships. In my situation, I’m working with some immediate family members (siblings). Fortunately, I truly love my siblings and would consider them some of my best friends. But either way, it’s a weird dynamic, sharing an office with those closest with you as well as just regular employees. There are legitimate pros and cons. But ultimately I find myself energized working with them. It is generally nice to always have people I want to eat lunch with, people I can truly trust, people I can send silly memes to in teams chat and joke around with. 

 

Can you "shadow" or spend more time on site before you make a call and really get a feel for what it's like? I respect the entrepreneurial itch but as I've gotten older I've seen that it can be glamorized. Even if you are calling the shots, you're still dealing with a bunch of BS. The HR crap associated with running a LMM business is nothing you've seen in IB/MF. It actually can be more stressful for less comp in some situations. Beyond that I think you need to be honest about how much autonomy you'd really have in light of whatever the family dynamics are. With all that said it could be a great education even if it doesn't work out.

Regarding emergency exit opps, the experience would certainly be valued for LMM/MM. Getting back to UMM/MF would be tougher and probably depends on market conditions. You can tell a good story with it if you get in the room, might just be hard to do so given those recruiting channels. Yes, you can still do MBA after, think you'd still be competitive for non H/S as long as 7 or fewer years out of school if you can tell a logical story and depending on the rest of your app but frankly might just not be that good an experience if you're older than everyone else and are actually experienced.

 

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