Q: Are PE / principal arms of US IBs to be sold or spin off?

Hi guys,

Seems that under the new regulation, all hedge fund / prop trading / special situations / real estates principal arms / desks are to be sold or spin-off, is that right (please correct me if wrong)?

My question then comes, how about the principal investment or PE arm of these US banks? Are they gonna survive within the bank, or same fate sooner or later as the others? If they become independent, they probably lose the deal-sourcing benefit from being part of their bank, so not as competitive as independent funds / PEs. What's your read / knowledge on this situation? Thanks.

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Fairly probable that many will do a spin out. If I understand the new guidelines, they don't have to be abolished, however, the amount of money that can be used by those types of investment vehicles is limited to 3% of the institution's capital...or something like that.

As far as sourcing, my experience (small, stand alone boutique which was previously spun out of a BB years ago) is that the people at the firm ultimately bring the deals in through their personal relationships, either directly or indirectly. In some aspects being apart of a large IB would be helpful, especially as a debt/mezz fund because the IB could refer the clients to the PE arm, but not having one is not the end of the world. Ideally, the people working at the PE fund of an IB will likely be well educated, with good experience and great connections, so there probably isn't much for them to worry about, except raising their follow-up fund.

Regards

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Thanks a lot for your great answer, quite informative, many thanks! Surprised that this question seems not very interesting and not many people have a view.....

 

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