Q&A: Principal at megafund

I feel like giving guidance to younger people is important. Unfortunately, I have a relatively straightforward background: * Target school 3.8+ GPA * Did the usual investment clubs, pwm internship freshman summer * Boutique IB sophomore * BB junior then got a return offer * Did 2 as analyst then 2 as associate then MBA * Now principal at megafund in New York. Feel free to ask me anything.

 

Op, first, thanks so much for doing this. Could you talk a little bit more about how your ib experience prepared you for PE, and do you notice a difference in the quality of candidates from BBs vs other Banks?

 

To add, i think there are low barriers to entry for vc and vc funds and the overall process isn’t as interesting to me. I enjoy the restructuring as opposed to the early stages in vc or growth equity

 

Thank you for giving back.

  • What kind of candidates stand out during the recruiting process? (Looking for common denominators here)
  • What made you decide that you wanted to continue on the PE path?
  • What do you wish you knew about PE before you entered the field?
 
  1. Being able to discuss deal experience in depth, and this is different than just having big deals on the resume. I would rather have a candidate who knows the ins and outs of an mm deal than having a big name on the resume but not being able to discuss if. I also look for people I want to spend 12 hours a day with, and this can’t be underrated

  2. I enjoy working with the portfolio companies a lot more than I expected and this helped to keep me in pe longer than I anticipated.

  3. Big names aren’t everything

 

I need candid advice of how to move to a strong middle/upper middle market fund from a non-MBB consulting firm that historically places weakly in the LMM. I've reached out to my firm and school alums but the Rolodex is thin. Many headhunters told me the funds I want to work at don’t hire from my firm. Not sure of the path forward as I don't want to go work at a lousy fund.

 

Hi, if you could shoot me a PM as well, I'd greatly appreciate it. I work at a heavy DD Tier 2 consulting firm and have worked on VDD/CDD for megafunds, but I would greatly appreciate recruiting advice. My firm places at lesser known MM funds and the occasional UMM. Any recruiting advice in general to target UMM or even megafunds in traditional or growth equity would be great.

 

Just to clarify, did you do the 2 year analyst and 2 year associate at the BB? Then, got your MBA and become principal at PE? If so, can you talk about how you were able to recruit as a principal right out of MBA as opposed to post MBA associate role?

 

As others have also said, thank you for doing this.

Do you believe it is possible to learn the technical IB skills without doing the standard summer stint? Upcoming summer role will be relatively light on technicals. Want to be fully prepared to answer any technical questions for FT interviews so was wondering if you had any advice on how to go about studying technicals outside of work experience.

 

Thank you for doing this.

Knowing what you know now, would you choose the same career path again? Maybe another asset class or aspect of the PE world (e.g. portfolio ops)?

Furthermore, I'd like to hear your advice on breaking into a UMM/MF via a non-traditional path, especially after an MBA (M7). Would you recommend doing IB or consulting as a stepping stone? (Or something else entirely?)

 

hey Whiskey5

Just wanted to ask you a question about that, since you're obviously high up in the totem pole. How are politics different in the LMM space as compared to a megafund. I've heard numerous colleagues from school tell me the same thing, funny since they are just starting out in IB or in their PE associate roles for the older ones. We're all 22 and just out of school (and I'm a consultant so I really have no idea what finance is honestly), but I repeatedly here about "politics" and the headaches associated with it. Is it just not as prevalent in the LMM?

 

Thanks for doing this.

Do you think staying on as an associate in IB impacted your ability (positively or negatively) to move to PE?

How did PE recruiting work out of business school? Is it as streamlined as the process for IB analysts?

 

I work at a middle market fund... i did banking earlier. it seems there is a very structured path for many for some time - I.e. similar to what you did - banking then private equity then an MBA and then more private equity.... my question is afterwards, what do folks end up doing? The ones that don’t become partner in private equity?

After a while there are often limited roles that you can easily fit into - I.e. “Pre-MBA” and “Post-MBA,” etc.

What separates the folks that stay in private equity for a short time vs ones that are able to rise up the ranks? It seems like most people leave private equity after a few years.

Thanks in advance!

 

Can you talk about what you think pros/cons are of working at specific large funds as an associate? Based on your experience and friends in the industry.

e.g. BX, Apollo, KKR, Bain, Carlyle

 

Thanks for doing this. Couple questions about the industry: - What is the typical waterfall structure and how does "carry" flow down to the specific deal team members? If you were considering roles at the sr. asso level, how would you diligence the opportunity for carry? - How can I learn more about how investment decisions are made at PE funds? Are there investment committee memos online? - How many platforms do you look to close in one year? - Could you elaborate on the typical due diligence process for a platform investment? What are the types of analyses that you run and what industry do you work in? How many deals do you look at a week and how much work goes into quashing deals you won't invest in?

 

Am I likely to break in at 27 with derivatives / pricing ops experience at a bulge bracket along with experience researching private M&A deals? I can create the models from the WSO courses and have passed CFA Level 1 as well.

Forgot to mention - I got the pwm internship my junior year at Florida State with a 2.8+ GPA while in the honors program. I’m currently in Boston and it feels really competitive which is why I’m finally opening my horizons to NYC.

Appreciate the insight!

 

Either the purpose of this AMA was to give yourself a pat on the back or you're some weirdo that enjoys living vicariously through a MD principal, but this sucks. What on Earth is the point of an AMA if you're just going to vomit boiler plate answers to the vanilla questions and dodge the good ones?

"Rage, rage against the dying of the light."
 

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