What happened to American Securities?

It sounds like in early July, American Securities laid off 2 partners, 2 principals, and 3 VPs from its investment team. An additional ~5 members of the Resources Group (at various levels) were also laid off. It does not look like any associates were affected. Supposedly management is keeping these individuals on the website to make the layoffs appear less obvious and to make it easier for these individuals to find new jobs. Management apparently justified the layoffs by saying that fundraising was not going according to plan, and that the firm needed to right-size and narrow its sector focuses to account for the declining fund size and to appease LPs. 

So how much of a decline are we talking about? American Securities’ most recent fund (ASP VIII; 2019 vintage) was $7B. The final close for ASP IX is supposed to be August 2024. For a while, the messaging to the investment team was that the goal for ASP IX was ~$7B (with potential upside to $10B). This lackluster (flat) initial target was blamed on challenging fundraising conditions. However, slowly but surely, messaging started to shift, and management/IR started to tell people to lower expectations (again, because of the challenging fundraising environment). For a while, people thought this meant a fund closer to $6B, with $5B as a worst case scenario. When 2024 rolled around, management/IR almost entirely stopped sharing fundraising updates, and as months passed by, people started to realize that the fundraising process was completely falling apart. Then in early July, employees were told that the most likely outcome for ASP IX is $3B, a ~57% decline from the $7B low target (the size of ASP VIII). It sounds like most people think the outcome will likely be sub-$3B.

So what factors contributed to this decline? In no particular order: (i) rushed diligence during Covid led to bad investment decisions where high multiples were paid for new platforms (up to ~20x in one instance), (ii) apparently the majority of current investments are underperforming, and several companies are facing very serious liquidity issues, (iii) two investments in ASP VII (MCS and AirMethods) were written off entirely (supposedly around $750M equity), negatively impacting overall fund performance, (iv) the founder, Michael Fisch, has been going through a very messy public divorce battle (Google Michael Fisch divorce), and it looks like he has been doing quite a bit of online reputation management in an attempt to cover up some of the bad publicity, (v) Michael Fisch effectively controls all investment decisions, and while it sounds like an “IC” was put in place in recent years, it was perceived as more of an attempt to appease LPs, and not as a means of creating a more thoughtfully organized partnership with a real succession plan, (vi) apart from a small percentage that was sold to Dyal several years back, Michael Fisch continues to own the entirety of the management company, further exacerbating partnership/succession concerns, (vii) there is a general lack of transparency, leading employees (and LPs) to feel like they are being misled, (viii) in recent years, the overall quality of new hires has declined as management/HR has touted the benefits of DEI, abandoning meritocratic hiring practices in an effort to artificially create a more diverse team (e.g., apparently HR would not interview highly qualified male candidates purely because they wanted more females), and (ix) it also sounds like culture has taken a turn for the worse in recent years as investment team leadership (and ways of thinking) has aged significantly and people with questionable leadership qualities have been elevated to positions of power. For example, it sounds like the current head of the investment team is considered to be very quiet and unapproachable. This does not sound like a recipe for success if the objective is to have a cohesive team and make strong investment decisions.

There are probably more issues, but these seem like some of the key ones. 

So what does this mean for American Securities? Many top performers saw the writing on the walls over the last two years and left on their own accord (e.g., a Resources Group partner left for GTCR, an Investment Team VP left for BayPine, an Investment Team VP took a CFO role, a Resources Group partner retired, and a Resources Group VP left to start her own consultancy). While most people agree that the two partners who got laid off had it coming (bad investment decisions, generally disliked, poor leaders), people were genuinely surprised by some of the decisions to lay off mid-levels (bright and committed to the firm). This begs the question: if management is willing to lay off these individuals, then who’s next? It appears as if fundraising struggles have have pushed the firm into self-preservation mode where nobody is safe. Given the drastic reduction in fund size, it seems like either more people will get laid off, or more people will jump ship, or likely both. Management has indicated that the plan for ASP IX is to deploy it as quickly as possible with similar check sizes and then quickly move to raising a larger ASP X. This seems unlikely given LPs would look to ASP VIII’s performance, which, as mentioned previously, is not going well. The future of American Securities seems really uncertain. These actions come across as a last-ditch effort to save fundraising (and individuals’ carry dollars) by claiming a sector focus / headcount reset is necessary, and then rushing to LPs and saying that actions speak louder than words. It seems unlikely that this strategy will work as intended, as most LPs have probably already made up their minds due to many of the reasons mentioned above, but time will tell. If LPs are interested in industrials exposure, it feels like there are a number of materially less risky GPs they can shift commitments to. It certainly feels like American Securities is on the verge of decline. Do any of you have any other insights? Are similar layoffs happening elsewhere?

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Someone very, very senior in the industry once said - "99% of Funds are one or two bad funds away from existing". That's playing out now. 

This coupled with fund sizes of 5x what they did 10-15 years ago, which inherently creates style drift. PE people are slowly having the realization that a ton of funds over $5b are pretty much cooked returns wise (leading to death of the firms) as it's just too hard to make companies in that world grow 2-3x over 5-7 years...There is a weird spot in the UMM where if you aren't so big that CALPERS and co. have to invest in your fund (see the public PE firms) then your performance actually matters.

 

This. If you've ever truly worked at a MM (not LMM and not UMM / MF), you get to see in real time the unique position that your firm is in that leads you to be successful while also seeing the perils that lie ahead. Here's how I've thought about it:

  • LMM - Young scrappy team getting off the ground. Often established by a single key man or woman from a larger firm or a tenured and respected  individual in the MM / LMM. In this realm, you're essentially getting paid to professionalize founder and family owned businesses. Bidding for less sponsored owned assets, more low hanging fruit, and a massive pond to fish in for opportunities.  Management teams are not as buttoned up and savvy so that "operational know how" that every firm claims to have can actually be put to use to impact change (implementing best case systems, people, and processes). Fund size is smaller, so the same percentage return generates a smaller absolute profit compared to a larger fund. 
  • MM - You're still small enough where you are able to look at an ample number of opportunities, and although businesses at this scale are more professionally run, there is still often work to be done. You have the track record, growth, and name brand to win in competitive processes without having to hit the highest number. And you can still achieve outsized returns. The problem as you look up, is that to grow to be the size of the UMM / MFs above you, you have to play a fundamentally different game than you have always played. You become more of an allocator of capital in an even smaller pond 
 

Funds go through transition and ebb & flow (see Carlyle RIFs last fall). There are plenty of other funds that are in worse shape (and admittedly a fewer portion that are in better shape). Those that are facing headwinds are are simply right-sizing for the expected fund size & likely waited too long for these actions. This is the new reality as the industry goes through its winter. This won't be the first fund with RIFs / drastic change. 

To the earlier point, given the level of competition today, performance degrading as fund sizes scale, lot of funds won't make it in 5-10 years. 

 

I don't think anyone is saying the firm will be gone over night, but a reduction in fund size from $7B to sub $3B with their existing headcount would be painful. The graphic on their website showing the historical growth in fund size is quite amazing though. I wonder which $1-$2B funds currently will be the next Amsec....and if they're hiring. Sigh

 

Clearlake was a $3bn fund in 2015 (smaller than AS if I remember it right) and is now $15bn. But before you get too giddy just wait for the next Clearlake raise.

Genstar was literally a footnote somewhere in the early 2010s - it raised over $10bn last fund.

Veritas was also a $5bn fund in 2015 and is now also $10bn+

You're observing the right trend but drawing the wrong conclusion - what you saw was a "rising tides float all boats" phenomenon. Remember Warren Buffet's quote - "When the tide goes out we'll see who is swimming naked"?. There will be far, far, far fewer $5bn --> $15bn fund increases for the near / medium term - for the LP, it will literally be like trying to find a unicorn start-up. 

 
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Funds go through transition and ebb & flow (see Carlyle RIFs last fall). There are plenty of other funds that are in worse shape (and admittedly a fewer portion that are in better shape). Those that are facing headwinds are are simply right-sizing for the expected fund size & likely waited too long for these actions. This is the new reality as the industry goes through its winter. This won't be the first fund with RIFs / drastic change. 

To the earlier point, given the level of competition today, performance degrading as fund sizes scale, lot of funds won't make it in 5-10 years. 

I'm on the LP side and the last sentence is everything. I really believe there will be a massive exodus of the UMM world to either true LMM or IS fund types as well as the industry will flush out a lot of people which is ultimately a good thing as there are way too many funds chasing way too few deals in that space for returns to truly be worth it for locking up capital for 15 years.

 

Good perspectives - valuable from the LP-side of things.

Curious - putting private credit aside for a second (different bucket than equities) on the LP side, do you have any sense of which of the following equities-like strategies are better/best positioned to steal share from buyout PE? 

Infra, climate/sustainability, secondaries (is this even the same bucket of capital from LPs?), true special sits/flexible mandate funds (i.e., not distressed funds), growth equity/VC (are these dead in the water these days?)

From a size perspective - I agree on the bar-belling - LMM/MFs - but any perspectives on that little slice of UMM/MF that aren't public but aren't quite just another UMM fund either (e.g. CD&R, Warburg Pincus, Bain, H&F, Advent - funds that have been around for a long-time). How much run-way / "moat" / stability does the longevity of the brand itself (and all the intangible assets that come with it) convey?

 

Yes, the layoffs you point to do sound like cause for concern, but two things:

- within the last year, amsec has had two huge exits (paragon, acuren), both sold for $1.9bn. You anecdotally point to two of their investments having been written down to zero, but such a reality is commonplace right now throughout PE. Just look at RX advisory revenues (much of which is derived from sponsor-backed companies) over the past two years
- You point to recent voluntary departures (with no timeframe cited) but only two of those individuals are investment team members. Two IPs leaving over some unknown period of time doesn’t sound very alarming. Churn is to be expected.

 

None of those things matter - the only thing that matters is the fund is down by 60% and (i) your carry pool has shrunk by 60%, and (ii) given they 'only' laid off ~20% of headcount but the fund size is down 60% - the average carry potential to each investment professional is down ~50% - and you can bet that that 'pain' is not going to be evenly distributed.

Put another way, imagine you signed up for a job telling you that your expected 'bonus' is $1,000,000 (and that's where the market is at your level). But then it comes out where best case is now $500,000 for the foreseeable future - and again, that is an optimistic case.

And this all in an industry where the only 'asset' is people. What rationally do you think will happen going forward?

 

I have done business with them and been socially friendly with professionals there at various levels. This could just be a bump in the road particularly since it seems like they grew quite a lot in the 2010s and might be going through a leadership transition potentially now. But tbd. I wouldn’t count them out. If their plan is really to just do a “mini-fund” and like do only a few deals instead of a full portfolio with fund 9, if the deals are good and the LPs like the assets these guys got their capital into, I could see fund 10 actually materializing. Maybe it doesn’t hit the $7bn of fund 8 or whatever, but PE guys may know a thing or two about lumpy results at times :). That said, if fund 9 doesn’t close and/or the deployment doesn’t go well… yes I could believe that there may be more departures of professionals (generally the people there seem quality) and American Securities could end its business run… but who knows…
 

Good luck all 👍🏼🙏🏼🙂

 

The thing is, this strategy doesn't really "work" in the sense of returning funds to their former trajectory. Providence did this (decently successfully!) after their grow-too-fast fund, and are fine now but basically a JAMMBO with some cool media/sports exposure for the vibes, and a commuter JAMMBO at that. THL seems to have done it decently and used the chance to go through a bit of a culture blood transfusion and rebrand as a nice MM tech fund, but they're not as exciting as some of the even smaller tech funds in Boston growing with pace (ironically, with as bad a group of cultures as the old THL).

AmSec will probably be "fine," because it's rare for businesses not to be "fine" in this industry--Clearlake is going to crawl to fundraise to a double digit fund right now. The fall from grace is really that ~8-10 years ago AmSec was one of THE flashiest MM names you could recruit for in terms of fund growth, apparently work/life, biz school, etc. and it's just not mentioned in that air at all anymore.

 

Great overall write-up, but as another poster pointed out DEI is an intriguing last choice of rationale. I’m sure the last 3-4 Associate classes, with the additional 1-2 female / diverse hires were the crux of poor investment decisions across multiple vintage funds.

 

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