What's your ranking of buyside careers on a risk, stress, time adjusted basis?
I'll start: LO > SM HF > UMM PE > MFPE > MM HF > MM PE > PC.
here's my rationale in no particular order.
1. MFPE
- Stress / Effort: tough culture, hours
- Risk: no real risk of getting fired but promotions become competitive (MBA requirements)
- Earnings: among the highest + consistent/stable + chance for carry
2. MM HF
- Stress / Effort: worst in terms of stress, among the worst hours, constantly thinking about stocks, actually have to use brain
- Risk: risk of losing job, no bonus etc.
- Earnings: variable, can be lucrative if pod outperforms
3. SM HF
- stress/effort: performance-driven stress, unpredictable hours
- risk: performance-linked job stability, bonus variability
- earnings: potential windfalls with fund success, less consistent than MFPE
4. LO
- stress/effort: more relaxed, long-term outlook
- risk: steady job due to strategy
- earnings: consistent but usually not as high as HFs or MFPE
5. UMM PE
- stress/effort: intense at times, especially during deals; more balanced than MFPE
- risk: good job stability but upward mobility gets challenging
- earnings: sits between MM PE and MFPE, with carry at senior levels
6. MM PE
- stress/effort: active during deals; demanding analysis and due diligence
- risk: stable position, but progression can be tough
- earnings: solid, with carry potential as one advances
7. PC
- stress/effort: fluctuates with deal stages, intense due diligence
- risk: generally stable but varies with market and firm
- earnings: competitive but might not match PE highs
MBA requirement is rare at MFs now
Maybe but I still see most people cycle after 2 years, so I don’t think that implies a more straightforward upward path.
Based on the most helpful WSO content, the ranking of buyside careers on a risk, stress, time adjusted basis can be as follows:
MFPE (Mega Fund Private Equity)
MM HF (Middle Market Hedge Fund)
SM HF (Single Manager Hedge Fund)
LO (Long Only)
UMM PE (Upper Middle Market Private Equity)
MM PE (Middle Market Private Equity)
PC (Private Credit)
Please note that these rankings can vary based on individual experiences and specific firms.
Sources: Q&A: HF out of undergrad, ~5 years later, Q&A: Buy-Side Analyst, What's it like?, Q&A: 15 years as IB ANL/ASO, HF ANL/PM, Start-up Corp Finance Executive
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At the risk of stating the obvious I would think that this differs person to person depending on how well they handle different types of stress, how many hours they can work without feeling like death, what type of work they find most interesting/enjoyable, etc.
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Don’t think I’ve ever heard anyone describe the work in PC as intense due diligence (especially compared to PE) other than people in private credit.
passthrumonster time to show this nerd how your balls are made out of alpha vs these beta-riding dimwits
I will never understand the incessant ranking of PE vs. HF jobs throughout this forum. They're like, completely different! Killer ASO's / VP's often don't give a shit about the markets and invest all their "play money" into Vanguard index funds! Some HFers would rather die than go through the PE diligence / execution process!
This. It's equivalent to saying "should I become a brain surgeon or M&A lawyer? They are both prestigious so I'm really stuck."
Many of these jobs are really not comparable. LO AM is a totally different day to day than SM HF and also MF PE. You have to consider personal preference / skillset match at some point instead of just force ranking these in an arbitrary way. FWIW, LO is one of the more coveted careers because of WLB, job security and comp, yet you rank it last because of your personal preference.
Sounds nuts but the question really isn't that nuts - these pools aren't as different as you're making them out to be
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