Why do VPs do this?

They parachute into the deal after focusing on another project and come in and wreak havoc on the deck / model with nonsensical questions and requests. Just assuming when I did something that’s not the norm to them that I did it because I’m an idiot and that I didn’t change course of plans because of what information is available and forgetting that I actually potentially put thought into what I did. Then I spend more time explaining what’s going on and responding to dumb comments than actual work. Then their spineless and can’t push back on reasonable internal timelines from partners because all they want to do is protect their carry and simp hard to the partners so they call me on Fridays requesting things for Sunday that are the opposite of time sensitive and usually comment about how the works seems simple and should take too long right? Which is usually untrue and takes all weekend.

More just venting so I don’t go off on those idiots. Makes it worse that this project is currently double staffed with VPs so it’s turned into a dick measuring contest on who can waste my time more.

 
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Appreciate fellas, was down bad after a long weekend and very late Sunday night for something that will most definitely sit in the partners inbox until Friday and we’ll let the cycle repeat. Onwards and upwards.

I will say that I’m trying to get use to having people all up in my shit again. I did 4 years in banking, and the last 2 I basically operated without oversight on deliverables partly due to knowing people’s preferences and having strong trust from seniors that it was right. Mostly just had to deal with cleanups after seniors sanity checked the outputs so getting use to people wanting to confirm and cross check every single little detail again like I’m a A1 banking analyst.

The VPs are pretty recent promotes so hopefully they will chill out down the road but until then RIP my weekends

 
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Since you're not asking for advice, I'll contribute my own rant.

There's this one VP that I worked with a lot that, in my opinion, seriously stunted my professional development to the point where I was completely unmotivated to be proactive in doing anything because I hated the dude so much. For anyone else who I (tangentially) worked with, I'd go above and beyond, lead workstreams, etc, because I enjoyed working with them and they were regular people since they were 3rd yr VP / principal level that I actually respected.

But working with a new VP that has a lot to prove, and who also is obsessive/psychotic, is honestly just a nightmare. Common behavior includes:

  • Hijack numerous calls and waste time speaking nonsense, causing our calls to run late. He literally wanted to hear his own voice. An example would be repeating everything that I say to an advisor as our DD focus, and slightly changing words. Dawg, you don't have to speak or lead every single thing, and you're literally wasting time that I could be spending doing all the other bullshit you thought of
  • Think long and hard about immaterial issues, and create meaningless work to address them. Buddy, no one is gonna care about this one sensitivity on COGS for this one product line that swings IRR by 15 bps. Maybe take a step back and focus on ensuring the underlying market adoption thesis is there.
  • Never getting additional clarity from the MD on workstreams. Dude will call and say, "Hey, MD wanted to pull a couple pages together on [vague portco topic]. Let's create these 20 pages so that we adequately address the ask." Turns out, 10 of those pages get cut (out of scope) and the remaining 10 get combined into 5, primarily because the dude was trying to cover all bases and not think about or clarify exactly what was needed. Unfortunately, this also frequently comes directly from the VP, meaning there's no chain or communication with the larger group to suggest a more efficient approach, and I have to push back directly to the VP (much less effective).
  • Despite being stressed and neurotic all the time, never does anything himself. In a lean shop, "good" VPs and principals will usually take some pages / some limited processing work. This guy will straight up write a few bullets and have the Associate do everything else, even the cover email that the VP then sends out himself.

Anyway, all this to say that a new, neurotic, and non-chill VP can make or break one's Associate experience. Between creating busywork and overanalyzing the wrong things, it becomes difficult to even care at a certain point.

 

Going through something incredibly similar now. Was working under a single VP for ~5 months and nearly quit until a new platform with a new VP picked up. Found out I didn't actually hate the job once I worked with someone competent.

Now a second year and already trying to scheme how I can foist this crappy VP to a first year and start coasting.

 

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