Hey guys saw some comments saying discount rate should be unlevered IRR. Interviewing at few major funds and in terms of interview prep how would that be defensible? Say it's and 11% unlevered IRR, isn't discount correlated to cap rate and growth? So how would that make sense if cap rate was a 5% cap rate and growth 3% a year. Anyone have anything in general to dig deeper into understanding discount rates and having a solid argument to back it up?

 
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Your target unlevered IRR. AKA your required rate of return.

Most firms just use target unlevered IRR to get a maximum purchase price they can pay while still hitting required underwriting metrics, then adjust pricing based on judgement from there (i.e. how bad do they want the deal, how much competition is there expected to be, do they have strong points to compete on aside from price, etc.). Another practice is a simple cap rate plus a few hundred bps.

Don't overcomplicate it. Young guys get too caught up in the technical side of the numbers when the market and real estate itself are way more important.

 

Call multiple brokers. Ask what the 10 year discount rate is (unlevered). AKA what discount are buyers underwriting to on a 10 year deal without leverage. Also call appraisers. Now you will have data and a defensible discount rate. 
 

While I’m not sure if you’re in the “institutional world”, but appraisers and brokers who serve the large institutions track this data. 

 

PWC has periodic surveys that they publish.

It should be 4%-7% usually. I know for NYC office right now DR is 6.5% for like 10-15 year holds.  It should necessarily be your unlevered IRR, since it is cost of capital.  You may find a great deal, and still use the same discout rate.  IF you have a deal where you have a 16% unlevered IRR, you are not going to use 16% as your discount rate.

 

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