Advice on negotiating entry-level offer at small real estate development firm (NYC)
Hi everyone,
I recently interviewed at a small real estate development firm based in NYC. I’m currently in the offer negotiation stage. This would be my first full-time job after grad school, so it’s an entry-level position at more of a mom-and-pop firm (not a big institutional shop).
I got the interview through a friend referral and have been in touch with the founder directly since then. My long-term goal is to build a career in real estate asset management, but after the interview, the founder mentioned that this role will require me to learn AppFolio in depth — not only to manage income tracking but also to use its CRM features for leasing, listings, email marketing campaigns, etc.
I’m totally open to learning and don’t want to sound picky about job responsibilities — I mainly want a solid first experience to grow my skills in real estate finance. However, I’m not completely sure what the official title of the role is (it might be something like Development Analyst, but not confirmed).
For those who started out at small/mom-and-pop real estate firms in NYC, could you share:
- What your entry-level compensation and benefits (insurance, PTO, etc.) looked like?
- Any tips on how to negotiation the offer with the founder?
I’d appreciate any insights or advice — especially from those who’ve started small and grown from there.
Thanks in advance!
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Good luck with the negotiation! Let me know if you need more specific advice.
Sources: What is Investment Sales in Commercial Real Estate?, Should I negotiate my offer? (1st Year Analyst), The Real Estate Job Hunt - How are people doing?, Working in Development Post College - when do you start making money?, NYC is Paradise
Your post is a confusingly written. Are you hesitant about the founder's description of the responsibilities? (FYI, that is exactly what asset management is). Are you concerned about the title or not? Is # of PTO days really going to be a deciding factor in the job you take to break into the industry?
Did you use ChatGPT to write this?
Thank you for your comment! I'm confused about the title of this job. I talked with the founder today, and he's also confused. I feel like an asset management role doesn't require doing email marketing campaigns. # of PTO isn't the main factor, I just want to learn about the market.
Email marketing campaigns for what? Look, my personal opinion is that small shops are the best possible place to learn, because you have to wear a lot of hats, and at the end of the day that's what you need if you want to be a good real estate owner or developer, and that's exponentially more so the case if you want to go out on your own. Anyone who only can do 1 or 2 things is going to find their career has a pretty low ceiling.
However, it has to be said in this case that this shop sounds like a nightmare. If the founder/principal cannot even intelligently describe your job to you, you need to think long and hard about what you're stepping in to. This person is so disorganized and so behind the ball that he cannot even clearly state what your job responsibilities are. It's almost like he hired a consultant to tell him how to grow his business, that person said "more email marketing campaigns!" and now he's just throwing that into the mix of responsibilities.
Your interview is not just about testing your fitness for a role, it's also a preview of what your experience is going to be like working for this person. However, if you think it's a good fit, I think you actually have some strong negotiating leverage. It's a small shop, probably without too much free cash flow, and the founder seems totally at sea. Given how early it is in your career, why not swing for the fences and ask for some equity, or a schedule that gets you there? Founder should be pleased to get help for less money today, and if you help him grow then everyone wins. And if it doesn't turn out well and the guy is as much a loser as it sounds like, then up sticks in a couple years with some good experience and no real wasted time. No one will hold you responsible if the company goes belly up.
Would echo that small shops can be the best possible place to learn but there is some risk if the people at the top suck.
no first year out of school gets equity.
Usually I'd agree, but this doesn't seem like a normal situation.
A more or less incompetent founder who is totally floundering, has no staff, and can't even really articulate the responsibilities of the role he's hiring for? That person might be desperate or dumb enough to negotiate for anything.
I love your comment! Very informative and wise!
Honestly, I have been thinking about negotiating equity. But since I just graduated from college and this is my first full-time job, I don’t want to lose the offer in this uncertain market. So I didn’t mention it when I was negotiating with them. I’m not very clear on how to negotiate equity, I feel they are just a family-run business, not sure if they wanna allocate their equity to others
Finally, the offer is $75k + 10% performance bonus. The title is Real Estate Finance, Asset & Business Analytics Manager. The responsibilities cover a lot, including AppFolio & Systems, Marketing, Reporting, Portfolio Analytics & KPIs, Investment & Asset Management, Data oversight & Audits (quote from the offer letter).
My plan is to get started with the company first and see if I really enjoy working there and if I get along well with the founder. If I decide to work with them long-term, I probably can negotiate for equity after three months of onboarding.
If you have any suggestions for negotiating equity, I look forward to hearing them! Like, do you have a recommendation for the best time to bring this up? Or how you feel this offer, what can i do better for the next negotiation.
Absolutely do not try to negotiate for equity within 3 months of starting. It will come across as incredibly tone-deaf. After you've spent a couple years proven that you're actually a useful asset to the company, maybe you can tease out whether it is in the cards down the road but even then I would not expect to see it as part of your comp package until you're at least 5+ years into your career.
Ah, like that! Thank you so much for this helpful reminder. Could you share more about why this is incredibly tone-deaf? If I make significant progress for the company, is it okay?
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