Blackstone Real Estate Culture
Does anyone have insight into the culture at BX's real estate teams? Have heard secondhand that both BX's REPE and RE Debt teams are super sweaty (constantly working until/past midnight), stiff, and cutthroat. Can someone confirm?
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They seemed like nice enough folks when I worked with them, but yes, very sweaty, e-mails at all hours of the night.
Friends sister worked in BREDS in NYC. Said she was working 9am-2am everyday and worked most weekends too. Hated her job but was clearing 300-350k by the time she was an associate.
I mean if this was $350k in 2017, that’s sick. Today? There are easier ways to make $350k as an associate
like what?
Wow??? Really!
I’m in capital markets sourcing leverage on both debt and equity investment. YOE: 5 (AVP/VP/Sr. Assoc/Associate Director level role), AUM 40bn, NYC based.
What do you think the fair pay is and base/salary breakdown? Common to get promote??
My brother as an IB associate worked the same hours and made double that last year.
700k as an IB associate? Bit of an exaggeration. Know a director at Evercore who cleared 800k
No, $600k, as a second year associate.
Bruh how. Wtf was the split on that between base and bonus. Is he hiring lol
$200k base, $400k bonus
Impossible unless he’s at GS Space Exploration Coverage
Originations? Underwriting? Or capital markets?
We don't get those types of jobs here
Bunch of cold robots
Confirmed
REPE London is as sweaty as it gets.
It's Blackstone, of course its sweaty
Their folks didn't strike me as noticeably cold/cutthroat from what I've heard from my buddies there / my interactions with them. You will get plenty of deal experience and learn a lot especially being surrounded by generally bright, driven people... but you'll pay a price for it - you will get absolutely railed in terms of hours.
If they're cutthroat, they're not going to be cutthroat to external parties. Kind of like how Jon Gray is viewed as a golden boy in the industry / great counterparty, but internally lobbied against coworkers and elbowed out his RE co-head during his rise.
Where did you hear this about Jon Gray?
There are numerous articles on it. Gotta look up it.
https://www.businessinsider.com/jon-gray-blackstone-profile-succession-…
Any chance you can paste the text, there’s a paywall
“Those sharper edges were on display in a recent shake-up of Blackstone's underperforming $78 billion hedge-fund unit, BAAM, when Gray relieved the fund's head, John McCormick, of investing duties and handed them over to Joe Dowling, the head of Brown University's investment office. Another senior BAAM executive was pushed out in the shake-up.
"If I'm not on top of my business and my issues, he'll know it and we'll be talking about it," David Blitzer, a longtime Blackstone executive, said of Gray's attention to detail. "We all have to be all in, no question."
Gray can be cold and calculating when dealing with those he feels are underperformers. He exhibited those tendencies during a notable episode a decade ago, when he quietly facilitated the exit of the executive who co-led the company's real-estate group with him.
The story was recounted by a person with direct knowledge of the events and confirmed by another person close to the situation.
By then, Gray was responsible for two of the largest real-estate buyouts ever, the $39 billion and $26 billion respective acquisitions of Equity Office Properties and Hilton, both in 2007, and had built Blackstone's real-estate investment business into a juggernaut. His counterpart, Chad Pike, was in London and presided over a European arm that was just a fraction of the size.
Gray labored around the clock, answering emails through the night and weekends. He used daily walks from his home on the Upper East Side to Blackstone's office to devour market intelligence, internal investment memos, and field calls with Wall Street glitterati.
Pike, meanwhile, had hobbies he wasn't hesitant to indulge in. He traveled with his family to exotic locales to heli-ski and became so passionate about the outdoors that he launched a side business of small luxury lodges and tours catering to sports like fly-fishing and mountain biking.
The differences between the two men had begun to grate on Gray, but at the time he didn't yet have the clout to push Pike out on his own.
Instead, he went behind Pike's back and triggered a series of events that would force his colleague's ouster, according to the people familiar with the events.
Gray turned to James, whose job included sorting through internal rivalries and conflicts. The partnership between him and Pike had frayed, Gray told him, and leadership of the group could no longer remain bifurcated. Pike, he believed, had lost focus.
Gray described the fissure in a way that gave James the impression that Pike felt not only a mutual disaffection but also a readiness to discuss his exit from the group. James flew to London to find the young executive blindsided by the whole affair.
Schwarzman was asked to step in. Pike, Schwarzman quickly decided, would be reassigned to a group within a new investment arm called tactical opportunities. Gray would be named the singular head of real estate.
"Yes, of course, I did go to London. That's a fact," James said. "But you have too much drama around it."
James declined to go into specifics about the incident, but he did not dispute any of its broad details. Pike, who quietly retired in 2020, declined to comment for this story.
"I think if you talk to Chad, the tac-opps era was the most fun he has had in his career," James said.”
Had a buddy who worked there, can confirm it’s 80+hr weeks there on the reg. He couldn’t take it anymore after about 1.5yrs and ended up leaving
isnt BREDS not that great of a group though? very unimpressed by the interns/analysts there
Lol your on campus interview not go well 😢
Work with ex-BX people. Agree with above, find them generally unimpressive because there is so much support staff at BX they aren't really doing anything other than punching numbers into excel with minimal thought.
Equity or debt? Acq/orig or AM?
Wow, interesting to hear that they aren’t very critical in their analysis and are more so excel monkeys. Im a first year at a top sponsor / developer and honestly feel like I have built a decent investment acumen / am building that investment acumen. Makes me glad that I started out on this side of the business, despite the fact that I am now looking to transition over to more of traditional REPE shop.
this shit isn't rocket science bro. Their critical thinking skills and acumen in this business are probably on par with yours lmao
Do the long hours at BX mainly apply to acquisition teams? Is it similar for portfolio management or AM teams in terms of hours?
Yes to both
Any insight on Real Estate Cap Markets???
Sweaty, but the people are smart and almost surprisingly very nice to each other. Apparently mid level staff get face time with Steve during IC process, so I think his personality really rubs off on the overall company. Have a friend doing REPE AM for them and he has nothing but great things to say.
^ Found the BX HR recruiter
Lol that would be nice wouldn't it... but maybe I didn't put enough emphasis on "sweaty"...
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