Hines Linkedin Diversity Posts...

Hines is the biggest real estate company I follow on Linkedin that always participates in making a huge show of Black History Month, Pride month, womens day or whatever....

Every single employee they highlight is always not a real estate investment professional / not front office. Work in IT, HR, accounting or some BS.

I don't know if they have any URM development professionals in the US. I know a decent amount of their office staff nationally as I'm at a big LP of theirs.

Just calling this out because their Linkedin posts piss me off and I hope their phony comms/HR departments sees this.

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btw, not a slam at you mr intern, you're just posting something without comment, my comments are directed at whoever created these categorizations

shit like this is why I think categorization is retarded and should end altogether

what is "asian?" is punjab asian? what about russian? what about turkish, they're literally asia minor...

what about black cubans? black brazilians? white mexicans? criollos? mestizos? melungeons? mulattos? what about someone from syria or lebanon who would otherwise be "white" yet likely has as different a mindset from a WASP as someone from nigeria?

how is "hispanic" defined? that's not a race, and totally excludes the non-spanish speaking latin world like brazil, suriname, and others, so you could be someone from the favela but if your dad was white, you're just white, not hispanic.

also, what's the threshold? say you were raised in an italian american household and your family is from somewhere tuscany or south and you find out you're 10% african by way of a dna test, are you black? how do you classify shaun king and gk butterfield? what would frederick douglass put down? before you answer "black," his mom was native american, white, and black, and his dad was "almost certainly white." so by simple math you can conclude "black" isn't even his majority race...so what is he? I'd argue he's american, plain and simple, and in many ways embodies the american dream, yet if he checked his majority race....it'd be white (GASP)

you show me an african american (I'm not talking about people who came to USA freely and didn't have slaves in their family) or latin american that's "pure" and I'll show you a liar who hasn't taken a DNA test. plenty of us are mutts, the EEOC and others just want to check boxes and make people continue to feel different. 

now, I'm all for increasing things like mentorship so that employees who aren't country club bros get a fair shake, and also expanding recruitment efforts to include schools that are a better representation of the entire country not just the 1%, but I think the entire idea of racial classification, if you apply any scientific rigor to it, sits on a house of cards

 
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Hines is the biggest real estate company I follow on Linkedin that always participates in making a huge show of Black History Month, Pride month, womens day or whatever....

Every single employee they highlight is always not a real estate investment professional / not front office. Work in IT, HR, accounting or some BS.

I don't know if they have any URM development professionals in the US. I know a decent amount of their office staff nationally as I'm at a big LP of theirs.

Just calling this out because their Linkedin posts piss me off and I hope their phony comms/HR departments sees this.

You aren't actually calling anything out, though.

And good on them for highlighting all the people you refer to as working in "BS" positions.  Those front office folks can't do their job without IT or accounting - just because those roles aren't as sexy doesn't mean they aren't integral to the working of the company.  Trust me when I say the back office folks make my life a hell of a lot easier - I can go out and hunt for deals or spend time on site running projects because I don't have to spend hours of my day dealing with accounts payable, or sorting out my own tech issues.

 

I think the point OP is trying to make is that the company is essentially virtue signaling by bragging about how they help URMs and have a “racially diverse” workforce when in reality those URM candidates are being funneled into 40k/year accounting jobs, not the higher paying client facing roles. It’s almost like once those candidates get to the firm there’s some discrimination going on behind the scenes.

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Former “Hines employee here… can absolutely attest to this being the case. My managers would not coffee chat, interview, or hire folks if they did not fit the right mold. Echo above sentiment that this might be a regional thing, but can think of many instances where women and minorities were not promoted as quickly/often as white male counterparts. Hines does do a good job of seeking underrepresented talent for their internship programs but I noticed a very poor retention rate among women and minorities at all levels of the company. Just my observations…

 
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The most interesting part of this thread is that the original poster is reportedly a large LP of Hines and yet the Company hasn't fully communicated their diversity initiatives.  Hines has been very active in D&I initiatives for a few years now.  As others have pointed out, this is going to take time.  Most of the leadership has been with the Company 40+ years and historically real estate hasn't been the most diverse industry.  But some quick examples that are fairly public are:

  • Laura Hines - President
  • Claire Thielke - Head of China; previously active in investment roles in Office of Investments.
  • Chiang Ling Ng (new) - CIO of Asia Pacific
  • Sarah Hawkins - Head of United States East; previously active in development roles in United States East.
  • Adriana Alcantara - MD, Investments
  • Mary Trevino - MD, Multifamily
  • Paige Pitcher - MD, Office of Innovation

I'm sure there are many others that aren't coming to top of mind at the moment.  The reality is they have a lot of D&I talent at the Analyst, Associate and Director level.  It will take time for this talent to grow and filter to the top to reflect a more diverse organization.  It isn't a light switch, it's a funnel and the more diverse talent they can add at the broad end of the funnel, the more will come in at the narrow end of the tunnel - over time.

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